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Do you think he’s right?
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I’d welcome them back today if I had a say. Just no extra sausage anymore.
God yes please. And can we boot Farage off the island when it happens.
THE BRI’ISH PEOPLE VOTED FOR BREXIT GET OVER IT REMOANERS
Prime cut of gammon there.
I can see clear calls in 15 years. But likely another 10-20 before those calls agree on any approach to join.
There will be a huge we should get what we had push making any actual agreement impossible.
I expect (at least) one party will eventually adopt Rejoin as a distinguishing policy, and maybe sooner rather later.
But the appetite for Rejoin will probably depend on the shape of the UK economy and the political direction of the EU in 10+ years. If the Starmer project really has been delivering tangible growth by then, people may feel Brexit has (inadvertently) “worked” in the end. If the EU achieves greater and greater integration in the UK’s absence it may seem less palatable to enough voters.
Both of those are also going to be influenced by external factors like the direction of a possible Trump second term, the outcome of the war in Ukraine etc.
I would hypothesise now that the UK has left, France’s proposals for a closer integrated EU standing army and two-speed EU are much more likely to go ahead.
Because of that I see a future in 20 years for something like a three-speed EU:
- Full integration.
- Free movement of goods and people.
- Mutual recognition of qualifications and frictionless framework for EU standard goods back and forth across the boarder. With a seat but no voting rights for the discussion of said standards.
His optimism for Britain to rejoin the bloc is not matched by Jean-Claude Juncker, another former European Commission chief, who in July suggested it would take “a century or two”.
Somewhere between 15 years and two centuries is a good guess.
I hope so. Though 15 years may be a bit optimistic. The UK has passed through the phase of leaving the EU being a benefit in itself (freeing it up to rule the waves once again unfettered by the whims of politically-correct vino-drinking bureaucrats and such), and, faced with the sunk cost of its folly, has retreated into denial. Brexit may have cost us dearly, it goes, but it’s a price we have to pay to be true to our destiny, rather than pretending to be just another small country interchangeable with Spaniards and Belgians. Eventually the fit of pique will end and the consensus will settle on Brexit being a bit shite, and there not being any meaningful glorious destiny for which it is a price worth paying, and the question is how do we become like the Spaniards or Belgians (or, indeed, the Irish), enjoying the conveniences of the EU. It may take a generation though.
It will be even funnier if Britain rejoins and then immediately leaves again.
Ancient flag shagging Tories… Hard Left Labour unions… With these powers combined they become:
CAPTAIN BREXIT! He’s their hero. Gonna bring the UK down to zero. Did a skid. Killed a kid. And crashed his balls on a dustbin lid.
The sooner the better. The architects and enablers of Brexit should be tried as traitors.
Lol.
