• stembolts@programming.dev
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    8 hours ago

    1 in 1,700 people are born with both sexual organs.

    If extrapolated to the population of the United States that is 10% of the population of Nebraska that cannot be defined in this manner.

    Therefore, that statement is not biologically factual as thousands of people have both.

    Since this is a UK forum, the UK has 40,000 citizens who cannot be defined male or female in this manner.


    Onto your point about manipulating gender at a young age.

    The largest number of gender reassignment surgeries are performed on the population I just described, without their consent, at birth. And believe it or not often doctors get it wrong.

    Someone assigned female by a doctor as a baby, well turns out mentally they are a boy, a boy who had their penis removed at birth. That might have some affect on a person, I think you’d agree.

    So with that in mind, I agree with you about one thing, that non-reversible gender decisions should not be made without the consent of the individual being assigned a gender, as doctors are currently doing to intersex babies on a regular basis.

    So can we stop pretending that gender reassignement is the problem? It’s just a wedge issue designed and promoted to keep the lower classes divided so that we don’t realize what the rich are doing to us and this planet. I am not your enemy. We are allies. The enemy is up/down, not left/right.

    Transgender people just want to exist. Is it an unreasonable demand to exist and be acknowledged? I think not.

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      3 hours ago

      I understand your sentiment and I dont want to come off as just “transbasher” because i have close both male and female friends who after college decided they wanted to transition. I don’t agree with their thought process but I don’t tell them or put them down for their choice because it’s their choice as an adult.

      On the subject of intersex births, I find the 1 in 1700 to be very generous. Having a mother who has worked labor and delivery for the past 30 years in a large hospital, she has only ever had 2 instances where the baby was born intersex. And that’s out of tens of thousands of deliveries. In those fringe cases I think sure we can allow those to be allowed to transition because there is a biological reason evident from birth. But if you just have a hormone imbalance that doesn’t mean you need to block the natural course of growth to see “what you’d prefer”. Just let the body do it’s thing and when it’s done developing then mess around with it.