Ice on the road from other drivers using the same tracks on a very steep curve. Shovel wouldnt have done anything because it was basically half an inch of ice. Sand might have got me up out of the way, but salt melting the area overnight (and several feet downhill) made it possible for me to safely negotiate the corner on the way down the next day as well.
yeah I would still say your thing is situation specific though. like folks living in mountains should do a bit more than like general everyone should have these things in winter in their car.
Ice on the road from other drivers using the same tracks on a very steep curve. Shovel wouldnt have done anything because it was basically half an inch of ice. Sand might have got me up out of the way, but salt melting the area overnight (and several feet downhill) made it possible for me to safely negotiate the corner on the way down the next day as well.
yeah I would still say your thing is situation specific though. like folks living in mountains should do a bit more than like general everyone should have these things in winter in their car.
Fair