• mannycalavera
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    You calling Kier Starmer a “far left ideologue”? I wish he had that much conviction.

    😆 Hahaha. Not everyone in that Labour era, no. But a large majority of them.

    I think the truth is a bit more boring. FPTP hugely favours the 2 established parties and, whilst their foundations are certainly eroding, it’ll take something seismic to actually bring a third party into power

    I agree with you. But also… we always say this. _There’s nothing we can do because FPTP, oh well". Surely leaving the European Union was seismic enough to get us off our arses and vote for a third option? But apparently not. What else is seismic enough? Climate change? Nah more Labour Tory please. Economic austerity? Nope not interested yet.

    As much as I hate FPTP at some point we have to admit that the majority of people don’t hate it (enough) or give a shit (enough) to change anything. We want this life.

    • samc
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      As much as I hate FPTP at some point we have to admit that the majority of people don’t hate it (enough) or give a shit (enough) to change anything. We want this life.

      We wanted Brexit (well 52% of people who voted in 2016 anyway…). And a lot of labour’s success is down to reform splitting the right-wing vote (nice to see it the other way around for a change). Labour only actually got ~34% of the popular vote. So whilst I don’t know if we chose this exactly, I agree that there is too much apathy towards the status quo.

      I find myself constantly thinking about American vox pops, where a surprising number of people say they would vote for Trump or Bernie. A lot of people just want somebody that’ll shake things up. Farage is that for many people, but our left-wing options just aren’t seen that way.