• azezeB@discuss.tchncs.de
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    15 hours ago

    I think the problem was the fact that they blocked the “old” community, despite a lot of people coming forward to actually keep the “old” community alive.

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      15 hours ago

      And then they unlocked the community. They fucked up and they apologized. Certain users really need to take a deep breath and stop writing essays on the topic calling for everyone’s heads. It’s giving off major Karen vibes, which belong as far away from c/196 as possible.

      This is the internet, this is Lemmy, it’s really not that big of a deal. Laugh about the drama, make memes about it, but for the love of God please stop taking everything so seriously.

      This comment isn’t directed towards you, but rather to a bunch of others I’ve seen from my cursory glance at a few threads, calling for everyone’s resignation and expressing their outrage. Like calm the fuck down, you’re embarrassing yourselves, and by extension the rest of us.

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        14 hours ago

        This comment isn’t directed towards you, but rather to a bunch of others I’ve seen from my cursory glance at a few threads, calling for everyone’s resignation and expressing their outrage. Like calm the fuck down, you’re embarrassing yourselves, and by extension the rest of us.

        It just gave very Reddit API shutdown vibes, which is not something people have very good memories of.

        Also most of the energy was dedicated to the creation of !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone , which was the evidence that the community was ready to restart elsewhere had the mods kept the community locked

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      15 hours ago

      The old community was being led by a corrupt admin, wasn’t it? Isn’t that the entire issue? Sounds like they can’t fix it.

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        14 hours ago

        It was just a difference of opinion in the way they wanted to moderate the community and how the admin wanted to moderate her server. And of course, the admin has the last word.

        But this stuff happens all the time on Lemmy, the only unusual thing is they decided to take the nuclear option and lock the community. Then they realized their mistake and unlocked it. It is what it is. I just get annoyed at all the people who flock to this drama like flies to shit so they can pile on the mods. It’s super lame.

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          14 hours ago

          And of course, the admin has the last word.

          Ada has expressed she didn’t want to intervene

          I am not going to take a community off of people who haven’t broken any instance rules. Mods need to have confidence that the communities they run aren’t going to be arbitrarily taken away from them because of an issue with an instance admin.

          https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12477708

          That’s an interesting difference to note with the usual admin/mod hierarchy

          so they can pile on the mods. It’s super lame.

          Mods shouldn’t make such decisions without asking the community first. That was supposedly the idea of Lemmy, having power tripping mods being kept in check by meta communities like !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com and the ability to move to another community on a whim. Still impressive to see how !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone got active in only a few hours, that’s definitely something that’s interesting.

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              12 hours ago

              Dude they’ve been doing this for the entire time since the switch happened. I give it another 24 hours or so for the schadenfreude and then the smart thing is to simply block and ignore their little corner of the internet.

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                11 hours ago

                Yeah, it took me a long time to realize because that user is extremely careful to always be superficially polite and always framing their actions as trying to help the fediverse, but I’m beginning to recognize that they’re basically an energy vampire that just drags down the vibe of Lemmy with constant but what about or I don’t fully agree replies.

                They seem to make every discussion way more complicated and contentious than it needs to be. What is the point of constantly linking and posting about every single time that anybody has a disagreement on Lemmy? They would nominally say they do it to expose mod abuse or whatever, but it’s typically fairly innocuous incidents that get blown way out of proportion. Mods aren’t ever going to be perfect, and constantly putting them and also random users on blast is extremely unproductive, because you get a whole bunch of commenters who don’t understand any of the nuance of the situation and inevitably get their pitchforks out, causing way more frustration and anger than the original situation would have caused otherwise.

                They also never upvote anybody who replies to them, even when they occasionally claim to agree, which is extremely rare in itself. Who does that? Like how do you use Lemmy that much but consistently refuse to upvote the other users who are taking time out of their day to have a discussion with you? They make using Lemmy seem boring and tedious, which is really quite a remarkable accomplishment considering how many other interesting personalities we have on here. And they always sound extremely insincere when they performatively congratulate or thank others, often opting for a one word Nice! or Thanks. Like I said, energy vampire. I could go on, but you get the message. I do not like this user and I am suspicious of their intentions.

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                  11 hours ago

                  Yeah, it took me a long time to realize because that user is extremely careful to always be superficially polite and always framing their actions as trying to help the fediverse, but I’m beginning to recognize that they’re basically an energy vampire that just drags down the vibe of Lemmy with constant but what about or I don’t fully agree replies.

                  They seem to make every discussion way more complicated and contentious than it needs to be. What is the point of constantly linking and posting about every single time that anybody has a disagreement on Lemmy? They would nominally say they do it to expose mod abuse or whatever, but it’s typically fairly innocuous incidents that get blown way out of proportion. Mods aren’t ever going to be perfect, and constantly putting them and also random users on blast is extremely unproductive, because you get a whole bunch of commenters who don’t understand any of the nuance of the situation and inevitably get their pitchforks out, causing way more frustration and anger than the original situation would have caused otherwise.

                  They also never upvote anybody who replies to them, even when they occasionally claim to agree, which is extremely rare in itself. Who does that? Like how do you use Lemmy that much but consistently refuse to upvote the other users who are taking time out of their day to have a discussion with you? They make using Lemmy seem boring and tedious, which is really quite a remarkable accomplishment considering how many other interesting personalities we have on here. And they always sound extremely insincere when they performatively congratulate or thank others, often opting for a one word Nice! or Thanks. Like I said, energy vampire. I could go on, but you get the message. I do not like this user and I am suspicious of their intentions.

                  I’m just going to quote the whole thing because it’s just too good.

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                    10 hours ago

                    Ok. If you are sincere then I am sorry, but that only means that you should majorly re-evaluate your behavior and try to honestly analyze if you are having the positive impact you claim to desire for Lemmy.

                    If you truly have an interest in improving the fediverse and making it a better place with better communities and a more diverse group of users, then you should be able to recognize that I am on your side, despite your personal dislike of me. I know that I come off as condescending and arrogant at times, but that’s because I deeply care about making this platform succeed, and it can be immensely frustrating when those who claim to support and believe in the platform seem to be acting counterproductively and worsening the climate on Lemmy by fanning the flames of petty drama and constantly calling for communities to split apart, servers to defederate, users to be banned, etc.