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Obligatory, fuck Spez

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    So you’re denying Ukraine is doing this? Or am I a tankie for pointing it out? All it takes to be a tankie is pointing out someone is calling themself a Nazi?

    You’ve taken this so far, you’re entering into Nazi sympathizer/collaborator territory.

    The US Congress had to lift a ban on arming Nazis in order to send arms to Ukraine. Now tell me how it’s somehow my fault for pointing that out.

    https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-us-weapons-azov-a3a555670bedeae2022900621d79aba7

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      Do you guys read the sources you post or just the headlines?

      Moscow has repeatedly portrayed the Azov as a Nazi group and accused it of atrocities, but has publicly given little evidence of the allegations.

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        Yes, I am aware AP has been whitewashing for fascists for a while. But Congress is not bound by what Moscow believes. Congress had to lift the ban on arming Nazis to send Ukraine weapons, because it’s also what the US believes.

        You know who also believes Ukraine is currently governed by a Nazi regime? The soldiers covering their uniforms in Nazis patches, the politicians naming streets after Nazis, and the Ukrainians openly declaring ‘I am a Nazi.’

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          If the Ukraine was so Nazi, why didn’t Russia go to the UN and create a multi-country coalition to remove the Nazis and save the people?

          And why would these Nazis elect a Jew?

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          Why would you discredit your own proof once it’s pointed out that it isn’t proof?

          Why not link directly to Ukraine’s statement?

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            Let’s establish the goalposts, so you can’t move them later. What would be adequately convincing, beyond a military covered in Nazi symbols and Ukrainian politicians erecting monuments of Nazis?

            How is it we can correctly identify Musk is a Nazi from a salute, but y’all struggle with this mountain of evidence?

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              Maybe don’t say your own proof can’t be trusted and again use primary sources

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          Lil Ruski is mad they’re losing. ://

          Running low on orcs, perhaps?

          https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1daqi53/the_most_graphicclearenemy_visible_combat_footage/

          Do you know who never called themselves nazis btw? The actual nazis. But hey, you show me that literal open declaration of “I am a Nazi” that you seem to be claiming exists.

          But you won’t. Because it doesn’t. And you’re a sad angry loser who’s angry he has to defend Putler’s actions and live in a shithole.

          What you will do is ignore all the points, lick some boots, then post some other inane list of non-related articles that tangentially approach the subject, pretend like they say what you claim when they literally say the opposite, then fuck right off. It’s like all the smart trolls in Russia were recruited to the war and are now fertilising Ukrainian soil. Well, guess that’s a natural selection of sorts as well. Devolution, if you will.

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            https://thehill.com/policy/international/217108-ukrainian-soldiers-seen-wearing-gear-displaying-nazi-symbols/

            Now tell me how this is my fault. Did I make these soldiers do this? Did I personally force Ukrainian politicians to spend millions from the budget on Nazi monuments?

            I’m simply anti-Nazi. The insistence that anyone opposing Nazis is pro-Russia is only coming from you in this conversation. Says a lot about your agenda.

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              That link doesn’t even open, but I’m pretty sure “wearing gear” is different from “open proclamation”, is it not? Is your ruski-translator on the fritz?

              (edit it does open on mobile, some of my privacy and antiad settings prolly blocked it on pc, garbo us site. So just more shit about azov battallion. Wow. How exactly does one or two insane guys wearing some offensive tats in an insane battallion translate to “Ukraine political leadership openly proclaim they’re nazis”?)

              I asked for you to show me evidence of these Ukrainian officials PUBLICLY, OPENLY, PROCLAIMING THEY WANT TO ENFORCE NAZI IDEOLOGIES, because that is what you claim.

              You’re not anti-nazi. You’re pro-Russian, you’re pro-Putler. He’s a dictator, a fascist, a huge cumstain. And you perpetuate his propaganda by claiming that his shitty and failing illegal attack on a sovereign nation is some heroic bullshit he’s pulling to “save the world from nazism”.

              Honestly, like, we can’t have a conversation. Your rhetoric is directly from the 70’s CCCP playbook and it’s just sooooo shite. You don’t see it, because you don’t have the capacity to recognize proper rhetoric.

              So to make clear, even if we assumed your schizophrenic bullshit is true, you say you’re not pro-Russian only “anti-nazi” (dogwhistle for people licking Putler’s dick and trying to say Ukraine is in the wrong to defend itself) you recognise that Russia broke international law by invading Ukraine so Russia needs to be punished for that and Putler needs to be brought to justice for the crimes against humanity they have committed in Ukraine? You accept and would personally bring Putler’s pathetic ass to justice if you could? You are anti-fascist, aren’t you?

              You went from “Ukraine president openly vows he’s a nazi and I have video to prove it!” to "Here’s a link that doesn’t work that doesn’t even remotely talk about what we were talking about, which is someone OPENLY PROCLAIMING something instead of having a symbol that Russia pretends is nazi.

              You’d probably think I’m a Nazi as well because of what’s on my beret huh? Unfortunately for you, it just means I’m trained to lead people while fighting Russians, not that I’m a Nazi. (im gonna edit to add the photo from mobile)

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                I believe Elon Musk throwing a Nazi salute is his open declaration that he is a Nazi. I believe Ukrainian politicians erecting monuments of Nazis is an open declaration that they are Nazis. I believe you proudly wearing Nazi symbols on your uniform is an open declaration that you are a Nazi.

                Despite what every fascist man-child would like people to believe, it’s actually very, very easy to not look like or associate yourself with Nazism.

                Nazi lives don’t matter.

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                  You not understanding history doesn’t mean everyone is “openly declaring as a Nazi.”

                  Elon is.

                  Zelensky is not.

                  And my symbol means I’ve graduated from AUK, meaning if you dirtbags try your asinine bullshit further up north, I’ll be commanding the squad putting a bullet between your eyes., you pretentious Putler loving fuck.

                  Nazi lives don’t matter, which is why I won’t feel bad defending Finland from invading Ruskis.

                  The reason Musk — the Nazi — is involved in US government currently is because Putler made people like you spread this sort of asinine bullshit and the Americans are so poorly educated it actually worked and Trump won.

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                    How do you know Elon is a Nazi?

                    You’re comfortable calling him a Nazi for the salute, but not convinced the people erecting monuments of Nazis might also be one themselves?

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      If taken at face value it sounds pretty much the same as the Hamas being a freedom-fighting group

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          Well you say that a Nazi-group stays a Nazi group even when they are fighting against an invader.

          Does that work the same way for the Hamas? Once a terrorist group always one? Or are they a liberation army?

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            Hamas was never a terrorist group. They are fighting an occupying force. By legal definition, they are a resistance group. A radical group, for sure, but the Israeli politicians created Hamas to prevent the secular Palestinian groups from achieving any peace agreements.

            But I wouldn’t expect someone defending Nazis to understand that.