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Tesla Cybertruck’s stiff structure, sharp design raise safety concerns - experts::The angular design of Tesla’s Cybertruck has safety experts concerned that the electric pickup truck’s stiff stainless-steel exoskeleton could hurt pedestrians and cyclists.
Gonna be real fun to see the crash test rating.
Without crumple zones, all of the kinetic energy goes into the occupants.
OTOH it weighs almost 7000lbs (~3100kg) so it’s going to plow through most of everything with its sheer mass.
You’d be surprised how much a concrete pillar holding up an overpass can actually take. They don’t break like in the movies, they are specifically designed to take big truck impacts and not fail. Anybody crashing a Cybertruck at highway speeds into one of those is instantly turned into red colored mashed potatoes.
Why does that sound delicious 😭
It is! In a pressure cooker, you can cook beets in a basket over a layer of potatoes and garlic cloves. The beet drippings turn the potatoes pinkish-red. Super fun for kids.
But has the pressure cooker been crash tested
Or you can just hang out under a highway overpass with a scoop and a cooler
Free range. Sustainable harvest. Recycling. Sounds good!
Eat the rich?
case in point
We have barriers good enough to stop a fully-loaded semi in effectively zero distance.
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Go hit a 10"+ tree in a pickup and see how fast you stop. You can wander over and pick the engine up when it flies out the hood. The tree will loose some bark.
Been there, done that. 0/10. Do not recommend.
Same, hit a small (maybe 5") tree going about 60mph. Came to a complete stop immediately and put my head through the windshield. We went and peeled the license plate off the tree the next day.
I guess it put a little mark on the tree but it was basically fine, completely destroyed the car though.
For me it was a rather large tree that I hit at about 100km/h (+60mph). Tree was fine. Car, not so much. The ambulance ride was nice though, and the first responders thought we were extremely lucky to be alive.
Wear your seat belts kids.
https://tellyspotting.kera.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/be102f-20170208-spinal-tap.jpg
I thought a car had to have that before it went on sale?
Believe it or not in the USA it’s actually based off of self compliance in the USA. There is no specific government body that has a standardized test that they have to pass to be made legal. The manufacture gets to make that decision themselves, then if there is an issue that the government finds later they can be pulled from the road.
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Oh I believe it.
I hope they get pulled from the road. Problem is, he’ll just bribe some government officials
:O
Yeah have you seen the footage it’s as stiff as the rod up musks butt hole
Here you go:
https://youtu.be/SQjoDV6vDaI
That’s… computer generated. BeamNG maybe?
I’m pretty sure that’s BeamNG, yeah. That sand looks like a texture from Johnson valley, I’m pretty sure the wall they’re hitting is either a gas station or a garage model that was placed on a road, and the skid marks from the tires look the same as they do in BeamNG. You can see body panels and doors clipping through the body of the truck on several occasions, too.
Looked convincing at first, but it felt too clean- Then at 7 seconds in, you can watch a white panel clip straight through the door and windshield lol
Yeah, without a disclaimer and evidence it’s modeled correctly it’s just straight misinformation at this point.
Second crash, the body part above the front wheel goes straight through it.
Look at the name of the channel too.
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Wow looks unsafe as fuck!!
Thanks for sharing! How do I know if this is good or bad haha
Couldn’t trust the truck enough to put a dummy in the seat.
Considering it’s rendered, they might as well just toss a human in.
What makes you think it doesn’t have crumple zones?
Because unless they have been outright lying in all of their specs, the entire body is made up of the same thick stainless steel that they have shown to be literally bulletproof.
It’s 4x as thick as current sheet metal used in other vehicles, and twice as thick as the steel bumpers used in old cars that didn’t have crumple zones.
That combined with the fact that they have stated that all of the strength and rigidity for the truck comes from the exoskeleton, that would preclude being able to crumple.
They have not made safety a priority in anything on this monstrosity. The windows are are all laminated and shatterproof, meaning you can’t break them to escape if there’s a fire or you end up underwater and the body is bulletproof meaning that it can’t be torn open with the jaws of life if you need to be extracted.
It’s a giant metal coffin.
Bulletproof steel can still crumple. And it does. It’s not made of adamantium. It’s a completely different type of force. The vehicle was crash-tested a long time ago. Just look at the photos.
E: wow, this guy is sharing straight up disinformation he pulled from his ass and I’m the one being downvoted…
What photos?
I’m not sure you should be talking about others sharing disinformation when the crash tests were only released 8 days ago.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a46011736/tesla-cybertruck-crash-test/
I’m not sure you should be talking at all considering you don’t seem to realize you can actually store footage from events that took place at an earlier date 🙄
So when you said:
You meant “just look at the video that was released a little over a week ago?” Because it sure didn’t look like that’s what you meant.
No, I meant exactly what I said. I’m not sure what part of that is confusing you.
Okay, let’s see these photos then.
I don’t know what the hell you’ve been reading, but they’ve never claimed the entire truck is solid stainless steel. Just the exterior panels.
they claimed that the exterior panels would be able to add to the rigidity and strength of the truck. Not that it was 100% rigid or that the exterior made up 100% of the structural strength.
The interior is still basically just a regular aluminum body like all their other cars.
Windows will shatter just like any other car window, and a jaws of life would pull apart that tin can no problem.
The side windows are laminated like a windshield. They are explicitly designed not to shatter.
They are just regular tempered glass. That might have been the BS they claimed at the original announcement, but that did not make it to the production version.
Ah, so it’s all from your incorrect assumptions about how materials work.
I know it’s fun to bash Tesla every now and then for their ridiculous things.
But do you really think, after making 4 vehicles with top of the line safety, that they will just say ‘eh, fuck it’ with the cybertruck?
It’s an aluminum casting base construction, just like the Model Y, so why would there be no crumble zones?
Because they wanted it to be bullet proof.
The safety standards are a regulatory requirement. They have to pass the same tests as any other vehicle.
Not in the US. We don’t have many safety regulations on vehicles and crash tests are not mandatory.
Correct. Especially large trucks are further exempted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Motor_Vehicle_Safety_Standards
How many more should we have?
How does getting rid of crumple zones facilitate that?
It doesn’t, not directly, however, the materials used in the exterior paneling contributes to the lack of safety in the vehicle and in crash tests, not only because of the materials, but also because of the shape of the panels and how they are joined.
There are crumple zones, they’re just not as big as those in competing trucks. But yeah, the safety comparison is probably negligible, what really makes me think it’s a bad truck is the design of the bed. It’s got slanted walls. That really limits what you can haul and how you can get it into the bed.
Let’s be real. No one is hauling anything in this truck. In my experience the more expensive truckk the less its actually used for anything.
The entire cybertruck fleet hauling completed by 2030 is probably the equivalent to one year of 01 Nissan Frontiers…
Yeah the practicality of the cybertruck is definitely questionable!
That actually would be on brand for Musk.
Were talking about Elon here. Yes, I do think so. In addition, don’t give too much credit, the other vehicles would always be inherently safer because they’re electric.
Ah yes, inherent safety can naturally be disregarded in such considerations.