I don’t at all see him coming back as Tory leader. He remains popular with Tory members but not the MPs (as has become more apparent the last few days) and certainly not the voting public. Going into an election with Boris as leader would be a recipe for the Tories’ destruction. He’ll make noises but I see no way he’d get enough Tory MPs to ever put him through to the final two of a leadership election.
After the election, even if Rishi is gone, Boris’s route back will be even tougher. First, because much of his support among Tory MPs lies with Red Wall MPs elected in 2019 (who feel more wedded to his brand of ‘big state and culture wars’ conservatism) - many of whom are definitely losing their seats to Labour at the next election, so won’t have a role in choosing the next Tory leader. And second, because many of the southern Tory MPs who may remain - many of whom weren’t his biggest fans to begin with but elected him leader in 2019 because they thought he was a winner - are going to feel even more personal animosity to him after the election when his sniping and undermining of Rishi is seen as one of the causes of a potentially huge Tory defeat.
If I had to bet, I’d say we’re finally done with Boris Johnson in frontline politics - and good riddance.
Yeah this sounds reasonable and I hope it’s how things playout.
My concern is that he remains popular with the Tory membership who do not reflect the general views of the population, and the tories ejected a lot of the moderate centerist MPs over Brexit. The rump party may be decidedly right wing, obsessed with brexit and a good breeding ground for a Boris comeback. He certainly won’t be leader before the next election but I can see him being painted as a messiah in a narrower deminished party desperate for success. They struggled to replace him already with a disasterous right wing Truss despite the MPs not favouring her.
He reminds me of Silvio Berlusconi in some ways - that guy was dogged with scandals throughout his career and his governments collapsed, but he bounced back multiple times. Italian politics is very different of course and Berlusconi was a media mogul so he could control the narrative in a way Boris cannot. But also Donald Trump, that guy has done things that would have seemed shocking only 10 years ago, and yet he remains the leading candidate for the Republican nomination for the next presidential election.
I don’t think Boris will achieve the same success as people like Berlusconi or Trump, but I wouldn’t put it past a rump defeated Conservative party to be so desperate they’re drawn to him again and we see him back in frontline politics unfortunately.
I don’t at all see him coming back as Tory leader. He remains popular with Tory members but not the MPs (as has become more apparent the last few days) and certainly not the voting public. Going into an election with Boris as leader would be a recipe for the Tories’ destruction. He’ll make noises but I see no way he’d get enough Tory MPs to ever put him through to the final two of a leadership election.
After the election, even if Rishi is gone, Boris’s route back will be even tougher. First, because much of his support among Tory MPs lies with Red Wall MPs elected in 2019 (who feel more wedded to his brand of ‘big state and culture wars’ conservatism) - many of whom are definitely losing their seats to Labour at the next election, so won’t have a role in choosing the next Tory leader. And second, because many of the southern Tory MPs who may remain - many of whom weren’t his biggest fans to begin with but elected him leader in 2019 because they thought he was a winner - are going to feel even more personal animosity to him after the election when his sniping and undermining of Rishi is seen as one of the causes of a potentially huge Tory defeat.
If I had to bet, I’d say we’re finally done with Boris Johnson in frontline politics - and good riddance.
Yeah this sounds reasonable and I hope it’s how things playout.
My concern is that he remains popular with the Tory membership who do not reflect the general views of the population, and the tories ejected a lot of the moderate centerist MPs over Brexit. The rump party may be decidedly right wing, obsessed with brexit and a good breeding ground for a Boris comeback. He certainly won’t be leader before the next election but I can see him being painted as a messiah in a narrower deminished party desperate for success. They struggled to replace him already with a disasterous right wing Truss despite the MPs not favouring her.
He reminds me of Silvio Berlusconi in some ways - that guy was dogged with scandals throughout his career and his governments collapsed, but he bounced back multiple times. Italian politics is very different of course and Berlusconi was a media mogul so he could control the narrative in a way Boris cannot. But also Donald Trump, that guy has done things that would have seemed shocking only 10 years ago, and yet he remains the leading candidate for the Republican nomination for the next presidential election.
I don’t think Boris will achieve the same success as people like Berlusconi or Trump, but I wouldn’t put it past a rump defeated Conservative party to be so desperate they’re drawn to him again and we see him back in frontline politics unfortunately.