• Jai1
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    2 years ago

    Help for mortgages would defeat a large part of the mechanism being used to deal with inflation. If the market expected there to be a realistic chance of this happening then interest rate expectations would go up even more and mortgage costs go up even more. Gove was an idiot to suggest they were looking at it. Or he didn’t particularly care beyond his own interests and popularity.

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      Except the mechanism for controlling current inflation is badly placed. The reason we have inflation so high in the UK is down to supply issues and energy bills. Economists have been shouting this for over a year now. Increasing interest rates is not going to solve that. The government knows this. They are doing nothing to alleviate the issue. Energy firms are still evading any windfall levies, and our port are about to becomes more constricted when they introduce actual border checks at the end of Q3.

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        2 years ago

        Not really. Energy prices are going down and are currently deflationary and supply issues are largely resolved. The UKs inflation situation is different to other countries that faced these same challenges so there is more going on that just these issues.

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          2 years ago

          O aye, your bill has gone down recently? Mine went up £80 last month.

          The wholesale price came down months ago. We have yet to benefit from that. Maybe when OFGEM is not controlled by a party that takes donations from energy associated companies, just maybe.

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            You clearly have no idea how OFGEM works. The cap has come down, but the government is subsiding it less than they were before. It will come down further in October. It’s a pretty transparent set equation on how to work out what the cap will be. OFGEM is not controlled by any party it’s an independent organisation like all of our regulators.

            Anyway energy is more than just electricity and gas you might have noticed that diesel and petrol have gone down in price and the ONS has reported that energy is actually reducing overall inflation right now because of the falling prices.

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              You clearly are a very arrogant person. This is the ONS view on inflation.

              The largest upward contributions to the inflation rate came from housing and household services (mainly electricity, gas and other fuels), as well as food and non-alcoholic beverages.

              OFGEM decreased the cap to £2000 per household average, but the subsidies stopped. It is still the largest factor in the inflation figures.

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                “Rising prices for air travel, recreational and cultural goods and services, and second-hand cars resulted in the largest upward contributions to the monthly change in both the CPIH and CPI annual rates.”

                “Falling prices for motor fuel led to the largest downward contribution to the monthly change in CPIH and CPI annual rates, while prices for food and non-alcoholic beverages rose in May 2023 but by less than in May 2022, also leading to an easing in the annual rates.”

                “Core CPI (excluding energy, food, alcohol and tobacco) rose by 7.1% in the 12 months to May 2023, up from 6.8% in April, and the highest rate since March 1992; the CPI goods annual rate eased from 10.0% to 9.7%, while the CPI services annual rate rose from 6.9% to 7.4%.”

                “The slight rise in the annual CPIH inflation rate in May 2023 broadly reflected offsetting contributions across the different product groups. A large upward effect from recreation and culture was offset by a large downward contribution from food and non-alcoholic beverages. The overall effect from transport masked larger, offsetting underlying contributions from motor fuels (downward), air fares (upward) and second-hand cars (upward).“

                https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/bulletins/consumerpriceinflation/may2023

                Try looking at what is actually happening in recent months rather than over the last 12 months. When deciding what factors are keeping inflation high you want to look at what is changing month by month.

                Imagine calling other people arrogant while spouting conspiracy nonsense about OFGEM and conservative donors.

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                  2 years ago

                  I quoted facts. There is no conspiracy theory unless you believe the ONS is heading a campaign.

                  As for control of OFGEM, do you think they set their own guidelines? They really do not. They are about as independent as our police or electoral commission. This is why they imposed such stringent policies regarding market stabilisation in 22. Or are you going to claim this was in the interests of the consumer?

                  You have 18 months left. The clock is ticking.

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                    What are you on about. I just provides you with 4 quotes from the ONS, which by the way has the same appointment process as OFGEM.

                    You think a bunch more bankruptcies in energy providers would have been better for the consumer? Did you forget what happened with Bulb.

                    18 months for what?