Lib Dem leader says people lending their votes to rival parties could shut the door on Conservatives at Westminster for years to come

Lib Dem leader says people lending their votes to rival parties could shut the door on Conservatives at Westminster for years to come

  • mannycalavera
    3·
    1 year ago

    do you think PR has become more of a mainstream issue in recent years? Because I’ve heard articles in the guardian as well as a people around me mentioning it

    I don’t think it has. The previous AV referendum had the same level of fringe interest too around a similar stage to this. The Lib Dems were the ones to push it through in coalition and against heavy opposition from the Tories (who watered it down) and veiled opposition from Labour (who like the EU question didn’t do jack shit and sat on the fence) so it absolutely tanked. It didn’t help that thousands of student voters saw this as an opportunity to “fuck tuition fees” and vote against anything supported by the Lib Dems. Since then I don’t think a lot has changed in terms of coverage or main stream support. And, you know, that other referendum happened…

    For example: how often do you hear about this on the daily news cycle versus hearing about anything Brexit related? Instead of XYZ news story can be partly blamed on Brexit do you ever hear ABC news story might have been different and more equitable under PR? Literally every single political and economic story needs to be about this for a sustained amount of time before this becomes mainstream again. Or Labour needs to swallow their pride and force the issue for the sake of the country.

      • mannycalavera
        2·
        1 year ago

        Oh shit, you’re right. Somehow I’d softened it in my head. I think we can see how this is going to go again. It’s incredibly incredibly disheartening. We’ll be trapped in tribal politics forever.

      • mannycalavera
        2·
        1 year ago

        Amongst the names for No to AV / supporter of FPTP this name pops up: Rachel Reeves. Where have seen that before 🧐?

        • theinspectorst@kbin.socialOP
          21·
          1 year ago

          Not on the list, but Andy Burnham was Labour’s election campaign coordinator at the time and played the critical role in getting Labour’s party machinery to ignore the referendum (which is what allowed all these Labour MPs to freely campaign for FPTP).

          So I’ve been very sceptical about his Damascene conversion to electoral reform now that he’s in a job that has no influence over the matter…