The New York Post have never been a trustworthy publication in the first place, but calling this headline a shameless lie isn’t even a strong enough way to express the new low the American media’s propagandizing has reached, especially in the last few weeks.

To make such an extreme claim up out of thin air is almost unbelievable even by New York Post standards. This is what western media has resorted to in order to keep those with nominally pro-Israeli views invested in this conflict, and we can only expect it to get worse as the diminishing impact of the shock factor continues.

Link to the tweet

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    The r/worldnews post about this was pretty peak Reddit brain. Frothing at the mouth with demand for Muslims to be genocided across the globe. Never change Reddit.

    I just found it very peculiar that they were complaining about how they had abducted all these female observers, the people who were supposed to be watching Gaza for attacks. Like how did they all get fucking caught? Weren’t they watching? They suck so much that they get their asses captured and then the media is like “they targetted the women!” No they took out the sentries on guard because they’re at war with them. Are they supposed to ignore women soldiers or something?

    Israelis can’t stop screaming about how shitty they are at war now it seems, between the woman trying to blame a ten year old for killing fifty soldiers or how they totally didn’t get owned by Hamas soldiers, they just blew up their own squad with a tank… Failsons running a military.

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      Frothing at the mouth with demand for Muslims to be genocided across the globe.

      Except for China where harmful and dangerous religious extremism is supposed to be tolerated and jobs programs+education are actually ebil CCP plots to eliminate Muslims (Muslims in China have the second highest birthrate of any census group, second only to Tibetans)

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      Very surprised that the filth on /r/worldnews, who love to talk about “human shields” in Gaza, have precisely zero questions about israel stationing women on the outskirts of Gaza to send warnings about attacks that the IOF completely ignore

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        They were ignored because the IDF was busy elsewhere and uhh uh uh the duplicitous Gazans sneak attacked them on a holiday!!!

        is what I see in various comment chains

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    seems we’ve left the “emphasis” part of “propaganda isn’t about lies, it’s about emphasis” as we move onto the “lies” stage, considering what StopAntisemitism just posted on twitter about the Irish PM recently

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      I went there and it was really weird. Like I’ve heard r/worldnews is a fucked sub but it really felt like all the comments seemed like they were from another planet. Everyone was acting like a) these weren’t soldiers for an occupying army and b) that something especially brutal is being done to them. Like if IDF soldiers aren’t legitimate targets then you’re really giving up the game here.

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      They’re going to keep baying about all of this until Palestine is gone, then 20 years from now they’ll be talking about how they knew all along that it was fabricated lies.

      Liberals are always on the right side of history once it is politically acceptable.

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          Honestly it’s the slightest bit surprising to me that Reddit is so pro-Israel. I think it goes to show just how astroturfed it is, since it is a fairly similar demographic to TikTok but an actually unbelievable difference in opinion

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            It’s been pointed out many times, but Reddit’s admin head is Jessica Ashooh, who previously worked for the Atlantic Council (a CIA front). She had no relevant work experience before signing on there.

            It’s likely under regulatory capture by the US and has been for a while. It’s also predominantly composed of white 20-30 somethings, so…

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              I think also the I’M MASTER GUNNERY SERGEANT MCFACIST AMA ABOUT BEING IN THE WORLDS MOST LETHAL FIGHTING FORCE THE US MARINES interstitial reddit ads. And then zero questions are even close to being rude or unsupportive.

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            It is weird, you go to any of the mainstream/reddit-apporved/local subs and it is completely pro-israel, meanwhile when you stray into any number of smaller and even larger but non-mainstream subs like even F1, it becomes the complete opposite. It is absolutely being targeted by astroturf campaigns that hit only the largest and front page/popular subs.

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            It’s more computationally intensive to make fake video than fake text, which is why Reddit and Twitter (I will deadname big tech as much as I want) are the 9th circle of hell whereas TikTok is only the 4th.

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              Also, since a lot of context on tiktok is spoken, it would take another very impressive algorithm to be able to scroll through the highly individualized video feed, find the correct video, comment on it before people who agree with the video content do, and comment enough without looking fake to potentially change the narrative.

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    The video is only shocking because there’s blood. Otherwise it just looks like a Prisoner of War situation. They are constantly cutting it and only keeping in shocking images or removing all context from each interaction so it can only have the least charitable interpretation.

    From what I could see, they took the prisoners of war (captured from a military base, which is a legitimate military target) to a FOB, interviewed them with questions about where in Israel they’re from and the phone numbers of their family, then loaded everyone onto transport keeps and likely left the active front to go to a more permanent base/camp.

    No one was killed, no one even got hit or hurt. One person was just yelled at because they kept talking and another just said she had a friend in Gaza and gave them her number.

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      هي إل صبايا هي إل همج

      “hay il sabaya hay il hamaj”

      “Sabaya” is essentially referring to them as young female captives of war. So in the context of the video posted, they are referring to the IOF soldiers as literal “Young female prisoners of war.” They also call them “hamaj” which could mean “barbarians” or “savages”

      So what is happening is that Zionists are intentionally misinterpreting their words. The term reached western media a few years ago when Isis was terrorizing the Yazidis, but Isis is notably not Hamas and when Isis used the word they used it to mean young female slaves,

      TW: Sexual assault

      as in property to be used (raped)

      I will attempt an English example of a similar way to misconstrue a word like this. I think the following is a decent approximation on how the meaning of a word can vary drastically given context but not be incorrect to use in any of these contexts:

      “He’s mine for the next 30 minutes.”

      Meaning:

      You will have physical, slave-like ownership over him for the next 30 minutes

      You and him will be sharing time on a task together for the next 30 minutes

      You will have his attention for the next 30 minutes

      You will be alone participating on the same task for the next 30 minutes

      You will be his sole director of activity for the next 30 minutes

      And so on and so on. There are so many ways to interpret the word “mine” in this sentence that the context is extremely important. The fact that the women in the video are called savages/barbarians says pretty much everything it needs to: they are prisoners of war. There’s not necessarily any mention of anything sexual, though somebody acting in bad faith could imply that it was, just like in my example above.

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        Sabaya could also be used for “young female” without the prisoner of war context, it’s like the female version of “guys” there’s even a Syrian sitcom called “Sabaya” about girls being girls.

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          This is a very good point, I just figured it would be easier for me to explain if I spoke of it in the context that the Zionists are intentionally misconstruing it (regarding Isis’s use of the word that western media has latched on to devoid of any cultural context)