• shameless@lemmy.world
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    I just read through some of their policies… I just can’t fathom how people read their policies and say “That’s the party for me!”

    They want to build 10,000 prisons, like wtf???

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      I can guarantee that 99% of the people who voted for them didn’t read their manifesto. They just like the way the party hates the same people they do and that Nige is just like one of us.

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        “Our Nige, he’s just like a normal bloke he is, you know. He’s one of us. Rather than being a private-school-educated, upper class, millionaire career politician with a background in the financial sector, he’s just a normal everyday ex-financial-sector career politician, that’s also a millionaire, and also upper class and also private-school-educated. He’s only been a politician for 25 years, so he’s pretty new at it and a fresh new anti-establishment underdog. He’s just a normal bloke trying his best”

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        To be fair, a lot of their policies directly help the working class. Like raising the tax threshold to £20,000. They couldn’t fund any of it, as they’re simultaneously promising to cut taxes on the most wealthy. But if you listen to a lot of what Farage says, it’s the same as every other party, but he’s also promising radical change and radical solutions.

        As misinformed, racist, and bigoted as they are, they’re playing hard to the poorest in our society and present as the most pro working class party.

        Just to make it clear, they’re a disgusting party, and I’m not even slightly suggesting anyone should ever vote for them. Just to actually acknowledge your opponent’s strengths so we can better combat them before the next election

        Edit: Made it clearer what the £20,000 policy was

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          Cutting taxes doesn’t help the poorest in society. We’ve also had 14 years of governments cutting tax and spending and the country is fucked, not to put too fine a point on it. I genuinely don’t see how anyone can look at where we are a think the problem is that rich people are paying too much tax.

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            Raising the tax threshold to £20,000 will absolutely help the poorest in society, especially short term which many currently need help with.

            You are correct with the rest of your comment though, which is exactly why I said it was unfunded, and that simultaneously cutting taxes on the rich is a ludicrous idea.

            My point is that there are other reasons why people would support Reform than just being frothing at the mouth racists

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    On a different note, why the increase in the UK using “gotten”? Please stop.

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      It’s clearly down to the increase in visible moustache-twirling villains in the news, saying stuff like “and I would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling kids.”

      Or something.

      Personally, I’m also annoyed at the increased use of “needs done”, which feels like it’s missing half a sentence. But hey, languages are big - and can fit a lot of different usage.

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        Get with the times. as in the 1500s?

        Get off my lawn, you damn colonial kids!

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        I have heard that US English is much closer to the English of the 1600s, whereas ours evolved under the influence of French, and I guess some things dropped out of common usage. Gotten being one of them, posssibly until the invention of YouTube sped up globalisation.

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          Oh that’s interesting. Because we all think of the British accent as code for colonial period speech on TV shows.

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            I was watching a video about that the other day, turns out the generic American accent is probably closer to the English accent of the time than ours is.