What I’ve seen and enjoyed:

X-Men (from the 2000’s). First Class. Days Of Future Past. Sam Raimi Spider-Man. Blade 1+2.

What I’ve seen and didn’t enjoy:

Iron Man. Avengers 1. The Amazing Spider-Man. X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Daredevil.

It feels like Marvel’s earlier movies were better? From their MCU stuff I get the vibes of tokusatsu but it takes itself way to seriously and the Joss Whedon banter is so reddit it hurts.

Thoughts?

  • MF_COOM [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I mean none of them are really going to be great films, because they’re inherently slop. Out of the slop that exists, the first Guardians of the Galaxy, Logan, Thor: Ragnarok, the first Avengers: Infinity War and the first new Spiderman (I think it’s called Homecoming?) are all pretty well put together.

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      I’ll be honest, I enjoyed the most recent one with all three Spider-men. Yeah it was fanservice slop, but I liked seeing Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina reprising their roles. Plus it was the first movie I’d seen in theaters in years so it was fun.

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    I’ll second Logan, Thor: Ragnarok, and the first Guardians of the Galaxy.

    I didn’t see it mentioned in this thread, but Moonknight is pretty good.

    I finally watched The Marvels and liked it more than I thought I would, but I don’t think I could actually recommend it to someone.

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      I finally watched The Marvels and liked it more than I thought I would, but I don’t think I could actually recommend it to someone.

      Wasn’t that the one where chuds got big mad over Captain Marvel being a woman even though she’s been a woman in the comics for like a while?

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        The Marvels is the second one - it’s got Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel, and Monica Rambeau in a kinda silly adventure movie. I’m sure the pronounjak-rages were made about it, too. It got a few sensible chuckles from me, but I don’t think I could recommend it. It was better than Aquaman 2 I guess shrug-outta-hecks

        The first one, Captain Marvel, is a shitty amerikkka air force ad.

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      I didn’t see it mentioned in this thread, but Moonknight is pretty good.

      Moon Knight was surprisingly well done, I have always liked the comics but thought making the transition to TV/Movies for Moon Knight would be kinda difficult. I think they did a good job.

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          I thought the 2006 to 2009 Charlie Huston (writer) and David Finch (Illustrator) was really grime-y and heavy in a non-edgy way. It was kinda impacted by the big “Civil War” event (I’m generally anti-“Massive multiple comic super events” as I think it usually doesn’t really work) but I thought that whole run was a great run. It really explored Khonshu as a character which I dig. I always see Moon Knight as a “Warlock”/“Anti-Paladin” style character and I the relationship between Khonshu and Moon Knight to be the most interesting dynamic of the comic.

          I also dig the “Mr. Knight” alter ego run as well. Warren Ellis and Declan Shalvey I think was 2012 or something like that. Great art and strong writing, just plain good-ass comic.

          Of course read the OG comics too, I only read the first ten from 1980’s but they were pretty damn good.

          As with all comics there is just so much damn to read, but I have found most of the Moon Knights to be solid.

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            As with all comics there is just so much damn to read

            Too true, thanks for some possible jumping in points. I just started reading Berserk this week, so who knows when I’ll give Moon Knight a shot lol

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    Captain America 1 and 2 are enjoyable imo. I don’t think 2 relies on the viewer doing much homework besides the first movie.

    The first is obv a WW2 war movie while the second is a “political thriller” about Nazi stand-ins infiltrating the US govt. It’s the most grounded of the MCU and probably the best of the bunch.

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    honestly and maybe because i grew up watching the evolutions show, i always thought the Fox x-men movies were better than most of the MCU stuff, i think Joss Whedon and its consequences has been a disaster for the mcu, because every director had to copy his style for the “MCU formula” which got boring eventually.

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      honestly and maybe because i grew up watching the evolutions show, i always thought the Fox x-men movies were better than most of the MCU stuff

      Likewise. They had some pretty decent writing I didn’t see in the MCU slop. Granted X-Men had some great source material to pull from.

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        maybe another reason why they were better is that they werent locket into having to built up for the next movie, like adding a important character for a future movie or plot which let them have more freedom for the writting staff

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          maybe another reason why they were better is that they werent locket into having to built up for the next movie, like adding a important character for a future movie or plot which let them have more freedom for the writting staff

          Indeed, I think the whole MCU shtick of every movie bleeding into the next leaves for films that aren’t memorable on their own.

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    Capeslop works better as shows than movies. I liked She-Hulk. The DC cartoon shows I’ve seen were also good, My Adventures with Superman and Harley Quinn.

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    The Loki TV show was actually pretty good (I’m pretty critical of marvel slop, I’ll rarely pirate one late night if I’m out of stuff to watch). Visually Doctor Strange is pretty fun. Just a lotta trippy stuff. The second one kinda sucks.

    Definitely watch Logan.

    Most of the newer stuff is kinda tired and worse

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    I’ve only seen the first iron man back in theatre’s in 2008, half of the first avengers and then I got bored or drunk and did something else, Deadpool 1, the first two Spiderman home related movies, the guardians of the galaxy movies and also thor ragnarok.

    I’d recommend the guardians movies, they slap pretty hard and thor ragnarok is a great time. The rest suck or are whatever.

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    I liked the first Dr. Strange, you can enjoy it as a standalone movie without knowing or caring about any of the other MCU stuff

    Dr. Strange 2 on the other hand expects you to have seen several Avengers movies and the WandaVision TV series so fuck that movie. sorry Raimi

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    can’t recommend a lot since I jumped off MCU early, sort of done with movies in general, did like Logan, I vaguely recall the 2 Hulk movies from the 2000s were not bad, and the X-Men movies, I like the Guardians comic book stuff enough that I could talk myself into thinking the movies are good, but the amount of quips and self-referencing is detracting, there’s camp and then there’s that Joss Whedon style camp cringe

    edit: not a movie but I recall that people liked the WandaVision series when it was coming out, haven’t seen it though