• MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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    I fundamentally disagree (on a social level). Social dance mfers don’t even start until 9:30PM, most people rock up at 10:30PM

    This some oppressive shit if you want to be up at 7 if that’s your body clock.

    I want to sleep hombre.

    I want to be up with the sun friend.

    Where are my 6PM socials. Hurt.

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    People see staying up late as a moral failing and feel that it’s their job to guilt trip anyone who sleeps in as lazy and wasting the day away.

    People see morning people as industrious and morally superior and don’t criticize them for their preferred sleeping habits. At worst they get some ribbing for not being able to stay away for new years, but it’s seen as understandable and a more pious lifestyle.

    So… Yeah. Morning people wingeing in the comments here can fight me, I’ll meet you at 10 o. Clock tonight outside.

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    Me sneaking into the sleeping room to not wake up my wife who has already been sleeping for 3 hours.

    vs

    My wife yelling “get out of the bed, it’s already 9am!” in the morning.

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    I am now 58 years old and something happened and I wake up at 6 in the morning every day for 6 months, if I have to get up or not. I was never a morning person, but now I am and I have no explanation for it. I like it, but I try to not bother others with it.

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        Yeah there’s a reason retirement homes serve breakfast at like 5AM and dinner by like 5PM. As you get older, your circadian rhythm tends to drift more towards waking and sleeping early.

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    Yep morning people oppression probably stunted my growth. Starting classes in high school at 8:15 was horrendous, I basically spend the entire day as a zombie. Didn’t matter if I slept on a regular time schedule I always felt tired.

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      That’s true for most teenagers, what time you get up is as dependent on age as anything.

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      We were trusted to protect the village from the terrors in the night for thousands of years! Now we’re cast aside as pariahs, weird beings that shouldn’t be in the group just because we’re different. Until we regain the respect we deserve, the day walkers shall receive none of our treasures!

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            Is 1pm an exaggeration or am I unintentionally rude even though I’m trying to be respectful? I don’t do anything to make noise like mowing, running my chainsaw, etc until after 11am. I used to start up late and sleep in until I had kids (wish I still could) so even though I’m up by at least 6am I find other stuff to do until at least 11 . Nobody has complained but I don’t think I would have complained myself.

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      The problem is, when they start with construction noises at 8am, this is all fine and legal, but if I come back at them with vacuuming at 11pm, I’ll just get a fine.

      It’s ok, I run my drier at night. It’s enough to be annoying and not enough for anyone to call the police.

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        Depends on the country. Mine doesn’t have laws about that, other than “disturbing the peace”. You can disturb the peace during the day too by revving an obnoxious motorcycle for instance. But no hours are codified as “night time” or “day time”. Only place it appears is blocks of flats, where the community can set it, when it’s binding. Also they can set it to be during any time they want it, so if a night owl sets it it could get weird :d

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    Who decided that only people who are up and out before 10:30 AM deserve fresh biscuits? This world is fucked.

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    I call that bullshit until owls give up the monopoly on every fucking fun event/gathering you can attend. Meeting with friends? Yeah let’s do this in the fucking night!! Concert or a party? God damn midnight would be sufficient. What? You want to have a fun time at reasonable time of fucking day? Boo opressor go to hell

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      We could organize stuff earlier… If we weren’t either in work or sleeping after a full week of getting up in the morning to “be productive members of society” !

      Barely relevant side note, I wanted to go to a concert in Poland, Powerwolf, Hammerfall and Wind Rose are playing in Kraków, but it’s on Monday? Who the hell makes a concert on Monday?!? God-damn it.

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      We’re winning the war, you can see here one of the oppressors is demoralized by our brutal tactics

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      Monopoly my ass. You morning people are just too lame to organize things that don’t fucking suck.

      Every once in a while someone forces me awake on a weekend morning, and I’m appalled by how eventless and boring it is until like noon anyway.

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        Ha, come hang with me in the summer on a Saturday. We’ll start climbing a 14,000 foot mountain (thats like 4600 meters for my EU friends) at 5/6am with intent on reaching the peak before 12. Why 12? Because the afternoon thunderstorms are rolling in and lets just say lightning is electrifying at 14000…. Well, at any height really.

        Boring, never.

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          Sounds terrible. Where I live, the marine layer doesn’t even recede until afternoon anyway. The sun basically doesn’t get up until twelve. Why do I have to be?

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          You’ve cured my insomnia. Thanks for the snooze.

          (I’m just horsing around, please don’t hate me, I love you)

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          Hiking before sunup is dangerous, so be sure to only do it when the dangers from late hiking grow to be larger or if there is a significant prize to be gained from finishing early (pizza)

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            Check out the sunrise times in the summer. 5am, we’re seeing dawn breaking. I’m not hiking in the dark, nor on a trail I don’t know. Also, flashlights help for those 20 min.

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            Yup, it is very often that the risk trade-off favours starting early. There’s a term alpine start for a reason. Whether it’s impending weather later in the day, or snow conditions will warm increasing avalanche risk, or the objective is just so long you want to make sure you’re back down on the easy bit. Had the latter last month. Did a traverse is seven summits and even with the 6am start it was dark by the time we got down from the ridge and back into the valley. Trail ran our way out by headlamps, singing dumb songs to not spook any grizzlies. Such a good outing!

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        I’ve actually seen more parties start in the afternoon or just after dinner here. I’m not even a morning person per se but I also don’t want to be home at 8am. I applaud it.

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      You’re saying that and yet the farmers market closes at 12pm. That shit is my fun, and yet I’m too sleepy to appreciate it

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    I wake up at 8 everyday even on weekend with a headache and a sore body. I don’t want to wake up at 8, but I have the body of a 80 years old.

    Am I a morning person?

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      That’s just when your rhythm wakes you. Put up some blackouts (and put in some high quality earplugs), go to bed later, and it’d be 11 easy enough.

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        Not if you live with chronic pain it won’t. He clearly does, and a lot of people do for a multitude of reasons.

        Source: I’m 38 with a couple of organs of a 60+ year old due to an autoimmune disorder. I’ll be blind in a few years, and after that the real fun begins.

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    I’m not a morning person, but my dog is which forces me to be awake between 6 and 7 am every day. I just have to roll with it and start my day cause fuck it I’m up.

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      Interestingly, I became a morning person after a couple of years of being gently woken up by my cats around 7am, not with loud meowing. Now, I just enjoy waking up at that time every day, even on weekends.

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        Meanwhile my cat doesn’t make a peep till he hears me wake up (scrolling youtube or something), then starts screaming like his life depended on it. Love being able to sleep in, no idea how / why he learned to do that. I just assume he is a total bro, like at everything else he does.

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    I’m a night person and my main job only has core hours in the afternoon. I’m also a farmer and if I don’t wake up and work in the morning, the heat is deadly in summer (our humidity is frequently 80+%). I’m now oppressed by the climate as well, hehehe.

    Sunrise and sunset in eastern Japan are also super early, so I’m not getting much of anything done between the end of core time and sunset even on our longest days.

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      my main job

      I’m also a farmer

      Never has Japan felt so foreign to me as while reading this comment. Being a farmer (as a job, not just gardening as a hobby) and having another career at the same time? What is this sorcery?

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        I have a cousin who is a farmer in the US and also has to have a second job. He probably has millions invested in machinery, but last time I talked to him about it he said for the cost of the equipment to really make sense he needs more land to farm. Right now he has unused capacity.

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        I just bought a house with land and started farming this year so maybe ask me in another year or two how it’s going, heh. No animals for now. I’ve managed to get a lot of food for us with some left over to sell.

        Oh, in the US, nearly all farmers are either getting subsidies and/or have off-farm jobs

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            The only government subsidies I could get that I know of (as a registered farmer) are from my local city to plant certain types of crops and it’s not a ton. JA (Japan Agriculture) might have something else, but I’m not sure. I imagine rice farming gets the bulk of things, and I don’t currently farm rice.

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    Please share this knowledge with everyone (irl too), even for the oppressed class this might be a PSA!