• Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    I find the concept of non-citizen voters to be really weird. Ideally, the path to citizenship would be easier, and then you get a vote this way.

    Unfortunately, that’s not reality.

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      5 days ago

      I find the concept of non-citizen voters to be really weird.

      What I find weird is that Commonwealth citizens can vote in the UK parliamentary elections but tax paying EU citizens cannot.

      “no taxation without representation”

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        4 days ago

        no taxation without representation

        Fuck off.

        If they want to live here, use our services and have employment here then they pay tax.

        When were were part of the EU, arguing for voting rights for residents made sense. However we are not, and if you were from any other country in the world I would expect you to pay the local taxes, even if you cannot vote there.

        That quote is about the UK imposing taxes on the Americas. We are not talking about that here.

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          3 days ago

          Weirdly aggressive response - it seems fairly clear to me that they’re arguing that people who live, work in the UK should have a right to vote, not that they should be exempted from paying tax

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            3 days ago

            You may consider it aggressive, but I want a bit more commitment than just paying a bit of taxes.

            Thats the sort of thing an American says just before Musk declares that he pays corporate tax and sues to vote in multiple countries, for as many companies as he owns.

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              3 days ago

              Commitment like living and working there, you mean? Nobody was proposing it should apply to corporations, because they aren’t people

              All they’re proposing is that people who pay their fair share for, and depend on, government services should have a say in how those services operate

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                3 days ago

                And considering the majority of migrant workers return to their home country, your proposal is not very bright.

                Hey, everyone who doesn’t have a stake in what happens in 5 years, do you want to vote for more investment in the country or reduced taxes. Yeah, thats going to end well.

                They need to have some skin in the game if they want to decide that level of impact.

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                  3 days ago

                  Okay? But I never said I agreed with them, did I? Just that it’s not such an intrinsically evil concept as to legitimate you being an asshole to the original commenter