A balloon is an accurate allegory for reddit.world. it may be big but it’s empty of anything of substance.
Seems like they didn’t get the memo that the entire point of coming here was to decentralize.
Then again /c/196 sucks so that’s a fitting instance for them. Blahaj is marginally better.
Having so many communities concentrated in one instance is a problem
Having an architecture that locks communities to an instance is a problem. They should be distributed across the network with no notion of a home instance.
That’s just mastodon tags
How would moderation work then?
Moderation is also just an event in the protocol, just like votes or comments. Your instance would simply have to aggregate all those events, just like the current “home instances” do for their communities.
Probably better than whatever batshit moderation happens right now on the tankie instances
It would be different. The end-user would have to moderate their feeds, they’d have to find the same community provided by platform hosts who align with the users moderation values, or be ok with hiding content themselves.
Isn’t that the way Nostr works, and thus if full of alt-right trolls escaping moderation?
They still to be attached to an instance at the protocol level. Or you have instances which are barely network components rather than communities, but that’s not what ActivityPub is about
And that’s a problem.
However, there’s nothing stopping a developer from extending the protocol to support it. You can essentially throw a message into the fediverse with more or less arbitrary payloads. Adding something like a feed/community identifier is not impossible.
196 is a fascist shithole and they are leaving blahaj because they finally acknowledged that fact and that there is an associated problem with misogynists and chasers on their platform. Good on blahaj for kicking out the trash.
They will be right at home on .world and frankly concentrating all the reactionaries there is good because it will drive other people to less shitty instances.
It’s called a fediverse for a reason
Also, lots of discussion under the announcement post in the new comm https://lemmy.world/post/24437552.
Omg the disparity is palpable.
The post you linked:
we are going to continue to moderate on this instance exactly the same as we did on blahaj.zone.
The “we’ve already left” style post on blahaj:
Why? That’s a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada’s excellent team of admins…
Edit: so in asking whether the moderation will appear the same to the users, the answer is “well yes, except actually no”.
I’m on LW and both communities seem empty. This usually indicates defederation, right?
No, that’s something with your client. When I go to https://lemmy.world/c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com I see plenty of posts.
It’s strange, when I’m logged in on the web app or use Sync I see nothing, when I’m not logged in to the web app it’s fine. Also using the Eternity app works fine.
Sync has a bug where you can’t see posts on your home instance.
That is weird, maybe check your language settings? Make sure you have ‘Undetermined’ selected. If not, maybe log out and back in.
Checked it, it’s on Undetermined. Logged back in just in case, but nothing.
Either I got banned or something else is afoot. But we’re getting quite offtopic so I’ll leave it here. Thanks for the suggestion!
Do you have the community blocked or something?
Nah I checked all my filters and blocks but dbzer0 is not on there. Did I get banned? XD
Also banned people can still see posts and comments from where they are banned
More like Nonce Sense.
196 is a horrible community full of transmysoginists and chasers and literal fascists.
196 is a horrible community full of transmysoginists and chasers and literal fascists
Could you provide examples? i’ve had generally good experiences with them. However i’m not active on it so i don’t know.
Here’s an example of them defending chasers.
Thanks. That example’s pretty confusing for me to follow due to lack of context, so i won’t comment on it. But ig trans chasers are cis guys interested in trans women/men? I haven’t actually seen this on c/196.
But i remember this was a huge problem on r/196. It was basically an entire circlejerk of cis people talking about how much they love femboys and trans girls and the actual trans people were the minority. The lemmy community doesn’t seem to have this.
full of transmysoginists and chasers and literal fascists.
This feels too far fetched to call them as nakoichi called them imo. (i’m not including your example due to as i said, not being able to understand it)
Honestly I don’t have the energy right now to go digging through old posts but there is a reason we defederated from blahaj, and it was well documented on hexbear at one point.
196 on reddit was originally kind of alright but lax moderation allowed chasers and reactionaries in and they basically took over the subreddit and then inserted themselves into blahaj. Ada refused to acknowledge this problem and we severed ties but it looks like she realized we were right as I hear there are talks of refederating as one of our conditions was the removal of the 196 mods and tightening up moderation on their end.
Strange, i thought they were an left-libertarian community? Sounds odd for them to be like that. I’ll try to see more about it i guess.
This is the best I could find, though I don’t think it substantiates claims being made. It’s also over a year old and so might not represent the current state of 196.
Besides the first (i agree that it is blatant ableism and shouldn’t be allowed in a space like that) and the last part (i can’t see it, the image is censored) everything seems fine anyway.
If i as a libertarian socialist went to chapo and started shitting on china, marxism-leninsm and stuff, that’d get me a ban. I mean, i see no reason why not, it’s their space. Same thing with 196; they’ve clearly said they don’t want tankies, so they shouldn’t have to deal with them.
And add to the fact that this is 1 year old, i’m not sure if a lot of these apply anymore. I wouldn’t imagine blahaj as a place to accept stuff like ableism, and as Nakoichi claimed:
full of transmysoginists and chasers and literal fascists
I don’t see evidence of that here.
Perhaps 196 has changed, but they were a significant part of why Hexbear isn’t fedded with blahaj. Now that 196 is gone/going, both sides are a lot more willing to federate.
left-libertarian community?
More like just libertarian at the end. Anticommunism ran rampant and allowed fascists to insert themselves into moderation positions at which point it just became a reactionary shithole.
My advice is be very wary of any community the is specifically “anti-tankie” it always leads to the same thing.
Tankie is just another iteration of anti-communist dogwhistles, like “woke” or “sjw” or most recently “DEI”.
They hate us because we are honest with our goals and aims and that they are correct. The communists disdain to hide their views and aims for they know that they can only succeed through the total overthrow of all social and economic institutions. We have nothing to lose but our chains, and a world to win.
Makes sense. The two padded rooms of Lemmy.
