Starmer wants that sweet sweet Brexit Red Wall vote so he’s not going to offer anything meaningful by way of rejoin.

Me: Time to vote for a party that wants to rejoin.

Militant Leftists: A vote for anyone other than Labour is a vote for the Tories.

Me: sadge.gif

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    Always check the bias of the source. The BBC shows clear indications of being Tory biased while trying to say they are not.

    Conference season starts next month. There some pretty convincing arguments Sunak is going to pull the trigger on a GE in the Tory conference. Labour have to get in first before we can have honest discussions. Every discussion on Brexit atm is tainted by Tory media.

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      The BBC shows clear indications of being Tory biased

      I love how the BBC is constantly labelled as having right wing bias by leftists and left wing bias by the far right. 😂😂🤣🤡🤣🤣😂

      Labour have to get in first before we can have honest discussions.

      No. Just have honest conversations now. Stop obfuscating all the time. People aren’t stupid, well the majority aren’t, they can understand long term plans and how they might change. Stop making excuses for this shit system and be honest as to what your long term goals are. Every time it’s the same: “I can’t tell you our plans for government until the very last minute when you have no time to think about them and will be forced into a rushed judgement”. It’s fucking depressing.

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        I love how the BBC is constantly labelled as having right wing bias by leftists and left wing bias by the far right. 😂😂🤣🤡🤣🤣😂

        What’s going on here is that the far right, consciously or not, conflates a kind of attenuated social liberalism and left wing progressivism. What it complains about (and greatly exaggerates) is the extent to which the cultural and creative programming features diversity, the comedy programming doesn’t feature as much bigotry as it would like, and the daily programming (stuff like The One Show) always uses very neutral and PC language.

        But this liberal sheen is largely a facade – the political and economic programming is astonishingly right wing, from Andrew Neil formerly hosting (while being chairman of the hard right Spectator), Kuenssberg lapping up and running Tory attack lines, the revolving door between BBC senior positions and the government, the panelling of Question Time and Newsnight, the strong editorial lean towards outdated austerity economics and immigration moral panics, the constant flirtation with right-wing think tanks, and so on. This would be a good introduction to the topic: https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/products/253-the-bbc.

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          The BBC has been a good source of news and has fell into the unbiased category in the past. This really is not the case today. That book was written before 2016. The situation is a whole lot worse now because of the aggressive political influence

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        The BBC does a media front page release everyday. When something is anti-tory they do not publish that media’s page. This is fact that has a long history and one of many the BBC is guilty of. Emily Maitles did a damning break down of how bad the BBC is. She was part of the infrastructure. As for having an honest conversation, this government wouldn’t know one if it jumps up and hit them with a 50lb wet fish. However hit them with a £50 note and you get a very different response.

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        I love how the BBC is constantly labelled as having right wing bias by leftists and left wing bias by the far right. 😂😂🤣🤡🤣🤣😂

        Wouldn’t that indicate they have a centre right bias. Or you know a Tory bias.