Nice to see a bit of progress on this issue.

  • @blackn1ght
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    It’ll turn out to be a huge success, where drug related deaths decrease and general drug related crimes go down, and then the UK government will shut it down.

    • GreatAlbatrossMA
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      209 months ago

      You’re forgetting the middle step, bringing in an outside expert to give them justification to shut it down.
      Then when the expert concludes the room is fantastic, and saving lives, they’ll sack them, and shut it down anyway.

    • @Syldon
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      29 months ago

      Sunak gave assurances in the last PMQs that he would not use powers to shut it down.

      • @Spendrill@lemm.ee
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        79 months ago

        Sunak is unlikely to be in power for longer than it takes for the pilot to generate ‘usable’ statistical results.

        The Conservatives can then use this scheme to attack Labour while in opposition, ‘Labour is weak on drugs!’ Labour then u-turns ‘They can’t make up their mind!’ and closes the trial down, ‘Sunak let this pioneering study go on and now Labour have shut it down!’

        Alternative scenario: it works and Labour don’t shut it down, The Sun running the headline ‘300% leap in crime near treatment room!’ Conservatives: ‘Labour is soft on crime, mollycoddling junkies while ordinary people struggle.’

        If you always argue from a place of bad faith then life never disappoints you.

        • @Syldon
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          39 months ago

          Tory media has to be a priority to be dealt with once the scum are out on their ears.

          • @Spendrill@lemm.ee
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            To be frank with you they need to rein in liberal media like the fucking Guardian also, those pricks are farming outrage to finance themselves. What we need is Leveson II and a regulatory body with bite. In fact the new regulatory body need to be about 90% teeth.

            • @Syldon
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              19 months ago

              I totally agree. I don’t see the guardian as the worst culprit though.

              • @Spendrill@lemm.ee
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                19 months ago

                Between The Sun, Mail, Express, Telegraph and Times it’s difficult to pick a worst. Sometimes I think it’s The Times because it’s still masquerading as a paper of record and so normalising ‘centrist’ positions that would have been well over to the right of the Overton window when I was a teenager.

                The Mail… so, so easy to hate with its borderline paedophilia while all the while chuntering on about the subject, its cake and eat it objectification of ‘celebrity’ women while revelling in their eventual downfall, their constant pushing of the crab bucket quest for total ‘normality’, their screaming about things that will give you cancer while remaining staunch advocates of the birch for climate protestors who, objectively are trying to remove a lot of those carcinogenic agents… hypocrisy beyond compare.

                The Telegraph, I think the telegraph are the worship of Mammon made into a broadsheet format. I see their unhinged ‘owning of the libs’ style diatribes and rounding up the middle to upper-middle class conservative faithful to vote for Brexit so that their owners would never have to pay a transactions tax on their investments as the other side of a pincer movement to normalise centrist position by showing how bugshit the ‘libertarian’ fringe’s ideas can be.

                And then there’s the Express, the ‘I did it my way’ unapologetic racist neighbour of all the other papers.

                • @Syldon
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                  19 months ago

                  The Mail… so, so easy to hate with its borderline paedophilia

                  I would not even open the mail, so this one has past me by. The Sun likes to forget it did a topless series on Sam Fox when she was 16, and led with a 6 week campaign beforehand, announcing it was coming.

  • @Syldon
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    129 months ago

    The consumption room plan is supported by Scottish National Party, Labour and Liberal Democrat politicians but the UK Home Office insists “there is no safe way to take illegal drugs”.

    There is no ideal way. Drugs are dangerous, but people take them. I am disappointed by the resistance to legalise drugs. While drugs are illegal, they are unmonitored. I don’t take drugs myself. I don’t even drink anymore

    • @thehatfox
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      One of the reasons illegal drugs are as dangerous as they are is because they are illegal. Their illicit nature means they are manufactured and distributed without any proper oversight or regulation, leading to dangerous lack of quality control.

      If recreational drugs could be purchased with proper standards for purity, dosage etc they would be much safer for their users.

      • @Spendrill@lemm.ee
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        49 months ago

        The Hat Fox: If recreational drugs could be purchased with proper standards for purity, dosage etc they would be much safer for their users.

        Social conservatives (inc. parts of the PLP): And that would be a bad thing. Drug consumption is a moral failure and should be punished by poverty, humiliation and death.

      • @Akisamb@programming.dev
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        Sure but look at alcohol, the consumer knows exactly what he’s purchasing. Didn’t stop a person I knew from dying from this shit.

        Drugs should be difficult to get to reduce the chances of recreational use.

        • @Bassman27@lemmy.world
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          19 months ago

          Drugs are already difficult to get for the average person. I can’t just walk to my corner shop and buy some crack.

          If people want something enough they will find it. All the war on drugs does is hand the money straight to criminals when I could be taxed to provide services who are struggling with addiction.

          • @Akisamb@programming.dev
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            09 months ago

            You can absolutely go to a corner store and buy alcohol. It’s not a coincidence that it kills 3 million people per year worldwide.

            Making drugs more accessible will increase consumption, that said it might reduce the negative effects for the consumers. If we allow the sell of drugs we should do everything we can to avoid the current situation with alcohol.

            Make the packaging ugly, make people understand that they are consuming something that will at best reduce their life expectancy at worst kill them and generally reduce he quality of their lives.

            • @Bassman27@lemmy.world
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              19 months ago

              Obesity kills over 4 million people a year should we put food in ugly packages too? People are well aware of the dangers of alcohol and changing what the bottle looks like won’t deter them.

              Most people have a reasonably healthy relationship with alcohol. There are already programs in place for those who abuse the substance.

              Those who abuse illicit drugs need help more than alcoholics as there is fewer programs available and more social stigma around it. People culturally view alcoholism as a non issue and it is occasionally celebrated.

              The war on drugs needs to end so it can benefit everyone with substance abuse. Focusing on alcohol will do little to cure the wider issue of dependency.

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    49 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Glasgow’s Integration Joint Board, which brings together NHS and council officials, ratified the plans at an online meeting on Wednesday morning.

    The idea has been discussed for years but it is able to go ahead now after Scotland’s senior law officer said users would not be prosecuted for possessing illegal drugs while at the facility.

    The guidance issued to prosecutors by Lord Advocate Dorothy Bain KC earlier this month stated that it would “not be in the public interest” to bring proceedings in such cases.

    The Glasgow consumption room would be based at Hunter Street in the east end of the city alongside a clinic where 23 long-term drug users are currently prescribed pharmaceutical heroin.

    Susanne Millar, chief officer of Glasgow’s Heath and Social Care Partnership, said engagement would begin immediately, with an initial community meeting scheduled for Thursday.

    The consumption room plan is supported by Scottish National Party, Labour and Liberal Democrat politicians but the UK Home Office insists “there is no safe way to take illegal drugs”.


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    • Blake [he/him]
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      79 months ago

      UK Home Office insists “there is no safe way to take illegal drugs”.

      There’s also no 100% safe way to eat a sandwich. Much more dangerous to get into a car than to smoke weed. UK Home Office can get in the fucking bin.

      • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝A
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        109 months ago

        There’s also no 100% safe way to eat a sandwich.

        As Ed Miliband knows well.

      • @mannycalavera
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        49 months ago

        You’d think that after the recent (20+) years we would learn that the HomeOffice is unfit for purpose and a total shambles.

      • @merridew
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        49 months ago

        The perfect is the enemy of the good. If people are going to use – and some are – harm reduction seems like a no-brainer.

        Yes, it would be great if people weren’t shooting up at all… but you can’t quit if you’re dead.