Economists put reason for divergence down to Brexit and Britain’s energy price guarantee

Snapshot of Eurozone inflation falls to 5.5% in sharp contrast to UK. Economists put reason for divergence down to Brexit and Britain’s energy price guarantee.

  • emerty
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    1 year ago

    Lol, you are like most remain voters I encounter, you like the idea of the EU, but don’t actually know anything about it. Of the 3 current federations, which one would you like the EU to become? Russia? China? USA?

    Ok. Let’s do some simple maths re wasted money

    66b wasted plus 66b opportunity cost plus 66b to redo the work that was meant to have been done. That’s 198b… And that assumes biodiversity hasn’t got worse, which it has, so it will cost more. Why do you defend failure?

    And no, the UK hasn’t spent 200b on brexit. You are demonstrating stunning levels of economic illiteracy now.

    When I present you evidence of EU incompetence and corruption, you claim this as evidence of competence and purity. 😂

    How about UVL and her disappearing texts?

    https://www.politico.eu/article/new-york-times-sue-european-union-ursula-von-der-leyen-pfizer-texts/

    And no, I won’t defend yet another power structure, I’m not a nationalist, I think all politicians have the opportunity to be corrupt, I don’t think that them being in Westminster or Brussels makes a blind bit of difference. You just prefer corruption with a nice accent and better coffee 😂.

    • G4Z
      11·
      1 year ago

      undefined> Lol, you are like most remain voters I encounter, you like the idea of the EU, but don’t actually know anything about it. Of the 3 current federations, which one would you like the EU to become? Russia? China? USA?

      Mate one of the first posts you made on this contained 2 factually incorrect statements and none of your links have backed up your claims.

      If me pointing this out makes me a typical remain voter, well I suppose that shows just how much more informed we are than you typically Brexit blind types.

      66b wasted plus 66b opportunity cost plus 66b to redo the work that was meant to have been done. That’s 198b…

      Oh well in that case, £200 bn lost, plus 200bn to re do all that work when we do eventually join and then another eleventy billion for things I made up just like you.

      And no, the UK hasn’t spent 200b on brexit. You are demonstrating stunning levels of economic illiteracy now.

      OBR says otherwise.

      You’ve already demonstrated you’re willing to make incorrect statements (charitable) and unsupported claims, bit rich to be saying anything about others literacy.

      When I present you evidence of EU incompetence and corruption, you claim this as evidence of competence and purity.

      I never said that though.

      I said

      ’ I think those are both fantastic examples of accountability’ which is an entirely different statment

      Do you always make up these straw men to knock down,do you think putting words in your debate opponents mouth is a god way to argue? You are simply incapable of responding to the actual point that’s been stated or something?

      I’m not a nationalist,

      You voted for fucking Brexit mate, and you’re defending it. If you aren’t a nationalist, you’re in bed getting fleas off them.

      Honestly, you ‘lexiters’ are more deluded than the most red faced sun reading UKIPers.

        • G4Z
          11·
          1 year ago

          Sure, the OBR says 4% GDP loss per year.

          3.1 trillion per year GDP, let’s make it 5% just to make it easy

          150 billion per year, x 2+ years, it’s well over 200bn.

          Bloomberg also agrees

          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-31/brexit-is-costing-the-uk-100-billion-a-year-in-lost-output

          So, you going to accept this fact then? or is it going to be fingers in ears?

          Your Google fu sucks as does your critical thinking skills

          What is this supposed to prove?

          I’m saying, they have 2 of the largest companies in the world you’ve pointed to a company with 34 employees and 2 farms (1 in construction) In farm in Germany has 422 employees (source linkedin for both) so it’s 10 times as big a company as the one you linked.

          Yes, I did vote for it. Very happy with it. Guess it just sucks to be you

          Haha, yeah I can tell, you won’t accept reality, you can’t accept you’ve made a huge mistake, you can’t handle the truth!

          Like I said, you’re all remarkably gullible, I mean similar.

          • emerty
            11·
            1 year ago

            Lol, the OBR said 4% of GDP per CAPITA OVER 15 YEARS

            LOL, YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT 😂😂😂😂

            • G4Z
              11·
              1 year ago

              Lol, the OBR said 4% of GDP per CAPITA OVER 15 YEARS

              Mate, firstly.

              Calm down.

              Secondly, you’re wrong, it is GDP not GDP per capita and it is at least 200bn.

              These are facts, accept the facts.

                • G4Z
                  11·
                  1 year ago

                  No it’s GDP, you are simply wrong, confidently wrong I will grant you, but wrong.

                  Tell me genius, what’s the measure for long term productivity growth the OBR uses here?

                  https://obr.uk/box/productivity-growth-long-term/

                  Oh right, look at that, it’s GDP.

                  I mean, are you saying Bloomberg is also wrong?

                  Again, resorting to insults just shows up your immaturity and the fact that you’ve lost this debate.

                  • emerty
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                    1 year ago

                    GDP growth was similar in the twentieth century and the nineteenth, averaging 2.1 per cent in both cases. Higher productivity growth in the twentieth century therefore is associated with weaker growth of total hours worked, due to a combination of weaker employment growth and falling average hours

                    You don’t understand your own link, 🤡

                  • emerty
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    Fucking hell,

                    GDP is one thing

                    Gross domestic product is a monetary measure of the market value of all the final goods and services produced in a specific time period by a country or countries.

                    GDP per capita is a measure of productivity and living standards

                    What Is GDP Per Capita? Gross domestic product (GDP) per capita is an economic metric that breaks down a country’s economic output per person. Economists use GDP per capita to determine how prosperous countries are based on their economic growth GDP per capita is calculated by dividing the GDP of a nation by its population. Countries with the higher GDP per capita tend to be those that are industrial, developed countries

                    Once you’ve worked that out, tell me what the loss of productivity that the OBR is forecasting is down to.

                    Hint, it’s comparative advantage. When you’ve learned what that is, let me know.

    • G4Z
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      1 year ago

      Yet again I go to read your link to see what you are talking about and yet again it’s not what you say.

      Okay so the NYT wants to read the texts, how does that show evidence of ‘corruption’?

      I mean, maybe we will see them and something will be uncovered, but as of right now you have nothing. If she’s corrupt then I hope they throw the book at her. You’ve not provided any evidence for your claim though. Again.

        • G4Z
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          1 year ago

          Oh yeah, Turkish state media site that doesn’t even load and talks about Breitbart’s opinion, cracking source. Yeah, that I won’t accept, give me a reputable source.

          You are literally googling for any old shit to support your nonsensical position.

            • G4Z
              11·
              1 year ago

              Firstly, no need for insults.

              I’m debating you in good faith, and I am smashing you to bits quite frankly and it’s not even difficult, it’s easy. Respond with better arguments and stop lying to yourself and you may be less upset.

              Secondly, again that story is not what you said it is. It’s allegations and it’s not even EU related it’s from back when she was German defence minister.

              Now I already told you, I don’t agree with corruption, I’d throw the book at her if there’s any truth to it and it were down to me.

              Any institution over time will have examples of corruption, from the top right down to local councils and the church raffle. It’s a very human problem that occurs everywhere. The important thing is how you deal with it, and as far as I can see the first case they dealt with it very well (arrests and prosecutions) and in the second case that’s clearly something for the German government to do something about.

              Then I look at the UK, these idiots you voted to give all the power too, day after day there are stories and evidence about corruption on absolutely incredible scale, literally billions stolen, 200 billion at least wasted on this pile of shit…

              • emerty
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                1 year ago

                Lol, smashing. You haven’t got a clue pal.

                There you go again, defending failure

                I didn’t vote for those idiots, moron.

                • G4Z
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                  1 year ago

                  Of course ‘I have a clue’, as far as I’m concerned I’ve demolished you and you’ve got nothing. That’s why you’ve resorted to insults.

                  You’re defending Brexit (badly), the very definition of defending failure.

                  • emerty
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    The Dunning-Kruger effect effect occurs when a person’s lack of knowledge and skills in a certain area cause them to overestimate their own competence

                    That’s you that is