• Syldon
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      This is how I expect negotiations to go. We will be expected to be a full member. It is in the EU rules that all members must move towards being in the Euro and the Schengen area. There are no limitations set on how fast you move towards that, but it is there in the terms of membership. Poland being the slowest, I think. So there will be a commitment from the get go to be part of those. I would not be surprised if the EU demand a referendum to show just how much the UK wants to join. Remembering it was a referendum that drove us out of there.

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      For a minute I thought “our terms” you were British and thought we could get anywhere near the the sweet deal before. Margret Thatcher would be rolling in her grave for all we have up

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        Thatcher hated the EU though, and would likely have been a Brexiteer had she still been around.

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          Thatcher actively campaigned Remain in 1975 and was a key architect of the EU’s single market during the 1980s - arguably her greatest and most far-reaching political achievement.

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            Indeed. But she was a vehement opponent of the Maastricht Treaty, and opposed further EU integration the whole time she was in the House of Lords.

            Her Bruges speech in 1988 made it very clear what she thought about moves towards a more federal Europe.

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              Is it fair to say that her views on the EU were more nuanced than your original comments suggested?

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              It seems like a leap to believe that the architect of the single market would have supported the UK leaving the single market.

              Not all Eurosceptics became Brexiters. David Cameron, George Osborne, William Hague, Philip Hammond - all genuine and vocal critics of political aspects of the EU who voted and campaigned Remain.

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                Who said anything about leaving the single market?

                You don’t have to be in the EU to be in the single market.

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          Maybe out of fedral (but actually think she would have had the sense to stay in and block things from inside), but she built common market so even if left full.on.eu at least we would have maybe have Norway option rather than this shaft hard Brexit

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        UK could adopt Euros and join Schengen without being in the EU. It was the tories that fucked things up for us, not the brexit vote. Fuck the tories.

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          Brexit is on the Tories. It is part of their failure soup.

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            The government doesn’t have the intelligence to even consider anything like that.