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Is it? It looked to me like he was calling out everyone apart from Count Binface. In fact, as far as Lib Dems go, the one that stood out to me the most was probably one that showed them in a fairly good light. He pointed out how, in a seat where the race is between LD and Con, the chart showed those two accurately, and overrepresented the smaller parties. And even that overrepresentation is fairly simply explained by graphic design needs. The arrow at the top of the bar is similarly obviously explained: an arrow represents directional change. They’re signalling “hey, vote for us and this is where we could be!”
Even in this video the presenter details how they often used values from completely unrelated elections because it made them look better.
Worth highlighting that the more egregious manipulation from the Lib Dems would not be in a constituency where they actually stand a chance (where the video presenter is based and used as a source for his leaflets). The worst is when they’re solidly in third, where they misrepresent their position and cynically try to take votes away from the actual alternative contender—you see more cases of that in the articles linked in the video description
Well fair play, I’ve lived in labour strongholds for the past two decades so perhaps that’s why I’ve never seen it from labour, but anecdotally it’s always predominantly lib dems in these lists (e.g. per the BBC articles linked in the posted video description).
Personal rant regarding your options: (feel free to disregard entirely as this is obviously opinionated)
For what it’s worth that’s a sucky situation with both the Tory dominance (by the by, where on earth are you that’s still polling that highly for them?!) as well as your labour candidate, but I personally can’t ever forgive the lib Dems for making the Tories king in 2010 in the first place and enabling this decade and a half of shit we have all been enduring. Without them Cameron’s minority Tory government collapses within a year or two.
But hey, at least they delivered on their campaign promises that were their red lines for going into the coalition!
Freeze university fees? Nah how about triple them. Alternative voting system? Nah let’s let the Tories scare the general public off the idea for the foreseeable future—oh and give the vote leave con artists (No to AV had the very same people behind it) their practice referendum so they know exactly what to do with the Brexit one, which would likely never have happened if the lib dems didn’t form the coalition.
They not only failed to deliver on every promise they campaigned on, they reneged on each in the absolute worst possible way.
I voted for lib dems in 2010 and I’ve never regretted a vote more, and will never make the mistake of supporting them in any way again. I and millions of others will not ever forget all this, so now the only thing they’re demonstrably good for is attracting disillusioned Tory voters away from voting their usual way.
How does any of what happened happen if the lib dems refuse the coalition? Cameron’s government collapses before it causes any real harm.
Exactly, they fell for the lies, continued happily falling for them and operated in lockstep with the Tories for the whole 5 year duration of the coalition. They accomplished nothing they promised and could have even thrown the coalition out once it was obvious and limited the damage they were causing—they did not. The absolute most charitable way of looking at them is completely oblivious imbeciles, and frankly is that who anyone should be voting for?
Holy shit the lib dems were not victims in the scenario, they enabled the whole bloody thing. They’re demonstrably spineless, stand for nothing and couldn’t resist grasping at the tiny bit of power they got no matter how much damage it caused to everything they were voted in to achieve.
It was disappointing that they agreed to the coalition, but at the time I remained hopeful. Then conceding every single manifesto pledge and party stance to the Conservatives, without any sort of resistance, just so they could stay in some sort of power, was absolutely unforgivable.
Of course it’s predominantly the lib Dems…
Literally all they seem to be capable of doing as a political force is getting a load of misleading dodgy charts on leaflets through people’s doors.
He also lives in a constituency where Labor, Green, and Reform aren’t campaigning seriously.
Is it? It looked to me like he was calling out everyone apart from Count Binface. In fact, as far as Lib Dems go, the one that stood out to me the most was probably one that showed them in a fairly good light. He pointed out how, in a seat where the race is between LD and Con, the chart showed those two accurately, and overrepresented the smaller parties. And even that overrepresentation is fairly simply explained by graphic design needs. The arrow at the top of the bar is similarly obviously explained: an arrow represents directional change. They’re signalling “hey, vote for us and this is where we could be!”
Even in this video the presenter details how they often used values from completely unrelated elections because it made them look better.
Worth highlighting that the more egregious manipulation from the Lib Dems would not be in a constituency where they actually stand a chance (where the video presenter is based and used as a source for his leaflets). The worst is when they’re solidly in third, where they misrepresent their position and cynically try to take votes away from the actual alternative contender—you see more cases of that in the articles linked in the video description
Around here Labour similarly have been posting dodgy graphs.
It’s been 63% Tory, with LibDems generally 18%, Labour 15% and the final ~5% split out between the others.
Labours acted like they’ve been the only convincing challenge. They all do it, because it’s all wishful thinking.
We have a Methodist minister standing for Labour here, so they haven’t got my vote anyway.
Well fair play, I’ve lived in labour strongholds for the past two decades so perhaps that’s why I’ve never seen it from labour, but anecdotally it’s always predominantly lib dems in these lists (e.g. per the BBC articles linked in the posted video description).
Personal rant regarding your options: (feel free to disregard entirely as this is obviously opinionated)
For what it’s worth that’s a sucky situation with both the Tory dominance (by the by, where on earth are you that’s still polling that highly for them?!) as well as your labour candidate, but I personally can’t ever forgive the lib Dems for making the Tories king in 2010 in the first place and enabling this decade and a half of shit we have all been enduring. Without them Cameron’s minority Tory government collapses within a year or two.
But hey, at least they delivered on their campaign promises that were their red lines for going into the coalition!
Freeze university fees? Nah how about triple them. Alternative voting system? Nah let’s let the Tories scare the general public off the idea for the foreseeable future—oh and give the vote leave con artists (No to AV had the very same people behind it) their practice referendum so they know exactly what to do with the Brexit one, which would likely never have happened if the lib dems didn’t form the coalition.
They not only failed to deliver on every promise they campaigned on, they reneged on each in the absolute worst possible way.
I voted for lib dems in 2010 and I’ve never regretted a vote more, and will never make the mistake of supporting them in any way again. I and millions of others will not ever forget all this, so now the only thing they’re demonstrably good for is attracting disillusioned Tory voters away from voting their usual way.
You are seriously going to blame them for what the Tories did?
They did suggest a Labour coalition first until Labour said “no fucking way would we ever share power with anyone”, and they fell for the Tory lies.
Not that I’m voting LibDem, but victim blaming seems to be about right based upon the rest of your comment.
How does any of what happened happen if the lib dems refuse the coalition? Cameron’s government collapses before it causes any real harm.
Exactly, they fell for the lies, continued happily falling for them and operated in lockstep with the Tories for the whole 5 year duration of the coalition. They accomplished nothing they promised and could have even thrown the coalition out once it was obvious and limited the damage they were causing—they did not. The absolute most charitable way of looking at them is completely oblivious imbeciles, and frankly is that who anyone should be voting for?
Holy shit the lib dems were not victims in the scenario, they enabled the whole bloody thing. They’re demonstrably spineless, stand for nothing and couldn’t resist grasping at the tiny bit of power they got no matter how much damage it caused to everything they were voted in to achieve.
It was disappointing that they agreed to the coalition, but at the time I remained hopeful. Then conceding every single manifesto pledge and party stance to the Conservatives, without any sort of resistance, just so they could stay in some sort of power, was absolutely unforgivable.