• FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Modern society / politics / voters / globalisation has completely failed to protect the workers of the West who are continually squeezed by any number of factors.

      The last resort is to attempt to need society less: making ones own food, rejecting consumerism, upcycling/recycling, changing entertainment tastes, consciously rejecting marketing etc

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        3 days ago

        It’s a nice ideal, but I don’t have acres of land to be self sufficient with.

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          3 days ago

          Last estimate I heard was 0.4 acres per person to grow enough food. And honestly, the UK does not have enough agriculturally suitable land to support its population.

          Only way we could do it now. Would be to build multi level indoor farms. Technically, this is possible. But economically even more likely to require individual non-self sufficient solutions. IE, groups be they societal or capital motivated. Getting together to fund, build and manage such complex and experimental farming.

          Not to mention energy requirements. Multi level lighting may be possible using sun reflection. But the more levels you need, the harder and more likely you are to need artificial lighting. So this increases our need to consider division of land usage for farming vs solar and wind or nuke generation.

          Honestly, I am not sure being fully self-sufficient as a nation. Will ever be possible again for dense population nations like the UK. We have not been so food wise since sometime before the 1900s.

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          3 days ago

          I didn’t mean it like it’s possible… I meant it like when society pulls the rug out from under you it doesn’t leave you with many other options…