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Donald Trump on Sunday proposed a new policy that many critics said is equivalent to legalizing “The Purge.”
Trump spoke at a rally in Pennsylvania, where he admitted that his attendees were “falling asleep” at one of his earlier rallies. Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign noted that, as Trump was still speaking at the swing-state event over the weekend, rallygoers placed directly behind the former president started to funnel out of the building.
One comment Trump made drew condemnation on social media, as well as numerous comparisons to The Purge, a film series based on a dystopian world in which the government makes all crimes legal for a 12-hour period.
As reported by Sebastian Smith, AFP Washington desk chief, “Trump in Erie, PA, says in US ‘the police aren’t allowed to do their job.’ To stop crime, you need ‘one really violent day.’ He says: ‘One rough hour and I mean real rough, the word would get out and it would end immediately.’”
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Everyone here thinking Trump is saying the quiet part out loud… but as the senile old man he is, I think he just saw the movie and is confusing whatever his handlers told him to say with that he fell as sleep watching on TV
Naw this is a case of the media tiptoing around him and preferring easily digested headlines.
He’s clearly not describing The Purge in the actual quote. He doesn’t want to make crime legal.
He’s describing Kristallnacht. He wants the cops to be able to punish anyone they want with as much violence as they want. He wants a massacre of anyone they declare a criminal, aka minorities and dissidents.
It’s so much fucking scarier than the bullshit headlines and it’s so fucking frustrating.
This is my take. I’ve never watched the purge.
It sounds to me like he’s just saying the police need to be able to dispense “justice” with impunity, and in his mind that can be tempered be saying you’d only need to do it once.
It’s just the latest in a long line of really concerning attitudes that the right seems happy to support.
Honestly i feel like this current lurch to the right, as we try to manage climate change, AI, and wealth concentration, is the great filter. We have some big problems and the right is just so determined to double down with all our current shitty plans.
It’s crazy we are going to be alive to see the great filter take place
Him, the evening before: “Oh yes, you’re a bigly big mac aren’t you, let’s just curl up on the couch and watch my stories…”
This is magas new Jesus. They worship this felon regardless of what he does or says.
“Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.”
I’m not all that surprised. Is anyone else surprised at this? Like, The Purge is the Republican wet dream.
The Purge is a metaphor for eugenics based on wealth. It’s a libertarian’s fantasy of what a genocide would be. Ofc they love it.
It’s kind of ironic that libertarians are too stupid realize that you have to be stupid to be a libertarian and that the world they profess to desire would leave them victims of their stupid libertarianism.
Outsider here, why is that?
It’s not. But it certainly is a wet dream for extremists on either side.
It’s a subset of the party, but there are vocal members that are sure they can save the world guns blazing, and live in a fantasy that all the bad people are just bad people and if allowed, will kill each other off. Many of them drive trucks with really big flags on them, which is handy, because it shows who you have to watch for cutting people off violently in traffic, or ignoring crosswalks.
Same reason as the Nazis. For any more details, you have to ask them.
I don’t think Trump is talking about a purge. What Teump is saying that the police should be allowed to get as violent as they want for that one hour.
You know typical dictator stuff.
Right. In a The Purge, you’d be allowed to actually defend yourself from the police.
Hilarious, as if police haven’t been doing what they want this entire time. They literally rape minors they arrest and get away with it. They barely have consequences already.
You think trump is really that thoughtful. I swear he just word salads his way through the day. Just like his social media posts.
Usually I would say it’s better to assume incompetence than malice. It’s a much better way to relate to the world.
There are two exceptions though:
- When you’re riding a bicycle on a road with cars around.
- When you’re putting someone in a position of power.
As one Lemmy say that the Trump has the concepts of an idea however word salads his way to communicate with people.
It sounds like Trump may have primary progressive aphasia.
Most aphasia types are caused by stroke or other acute brain injury that damages brain tissue in areas important for language processing. However, a type of aphasia called primary progressive aphasia is a neurodegenerative disease, which results from progressive deterioration of brain tissue in areas important for speech and language. It is often caused by diseases such as s Alzheimer’s or Frontotemporal Lobar Degeneration. Although the first symptoms are problems with speech and language, other problems associated with the underlying disease, such as memory loss and personality changes often occur later.
That was my interpretation too. Still lawlessness, but for the police.
And their deputies, of course. Whoever they choose to deputize.
Yep, and that is a lot worse.
At least in “The Purge” scenario, you’re allowed to fight back against the police.
The police already fairly violent now. Imagine if the police got a carte blanche do whatever they want.
Imagine
Glad you got that head start
Like Rodrigo Deutre in the Philippines.
I don’t think so. It reads to me like, if one day of massive violence from people generally, happened, then after that the police would be given freedom to crack down severely on everything.
“Fear leads to…‘the security of My New Empire’”
Addendum: I re-read the quote and now I feel I can read it either way.
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Yeah, that is the movie “the purge” but only legalized for US police, because US police hasn’t been violent enough yet in comparison to other police forces world wide.
So…not The Purge?
the police are 0.6% of the population.
including their families they could be wiped out very easily.
i think that trump wants to use the police to incite a class war to avoid losing the election.
i have no idea who would side with whom in the US.
I suspect he’s talking about giving the police carte blanche, not anyone else.
And he likely also has a certain idea of who the criminals are.
Anyone who’s not a billionaire?
He still thinks the “Central Park 5” should have been executed even though they were exonerated. 5 young men who share a certain skin color with me…
at any given moment on any given day, with a little bit of covert communications, any group of people could rise up against another in a Rwandan style genocide. we are all connected via our phones. all you have to do is have a willing population and the right person to give ‘the signal’.
which group are you going to be?
I’m sure he’s talking about giving police carte blanche to be as violent as they want for an hour. Which is obviously batshit. But it honestly makes me wonder…is he trying to lose this election?
One comment Trump made drew condemnation…
Just one?
Uhm, I don’t think this is a reference to the Purge, I think this is a reference to the Day of the Rope from the Turner Diaries
As much as I know Trump is a piece of shit nazi, it’s far more likely that he watched a movie, rather than anything to do with reading.
No way he read the book, but he’s immersed enough in that far-right shit scape that it’s not really much of a stretch to believe he picked it up somewhere. I’m sure people on Truth Social love talking about it.
The Turner Diaries is barely readable. I know, I read it.
I know you’re supposed to know your enemy, but I have no plan of putting that filth in my brain.
That’s why people like me and other lefties often take one for the team and read it so you don’t to
Firstly there is thought slime’s video on the thing describing it in great detail, and then there is the TV tropes that also has some great information on it.
What do I have to add? I need to mention that one aspect of the Turner diaries plays up is that somehow the opposition is so incredibly afraid of being labeled racist or 'politically correct ’ (now usually called woke) and will allow all manner of heinous crimes committed by non-white people in order to avoid that.
This is a trope that is often employed by right wing authors, including Ben Shapiro and Glen Beck. They have this idea that liberals and lefties are so terrified of the racist label that they would never describe a suspect as black or Asian for fear of ‘racial profiling’ (even though that isn’t what it is) that blacks somehow commit crimes with impunity until a conservative calls it for what it is and gets the job done.
The Turner diaries does the same… but only far worse. There are several parts of the book where blacks all form cannibal and rape rings and just kidnap at random white girls (and only white girls) to rape and eat and all the white authority figures are powerless to stop them due to the fear not being called racist.
Jesus fuck that last bit… these people need help.
Hard to imagine Trump has read very many books. More likely it’s just something he made up on the spot, because that’s what he’s been doing for decades. It’s why he sounds so stupid all the time. He doesn’t think about anything, he just spews out whatever is on the top of his mind. That’s how we got to injecting bleach and putting light inside the body and windmills causing cancer and an absolutely insane medley of incredible bullshit. It’s not because he’s researched the topic in any way, shape, or form.
Hard to imagine Trump has read very many books.
By all accounts, he’s never even read his autobiography.
Okay, but I’m not on board yet. We start with the biggest crooks of all, the wage thieves, right?
People who think something insane like the purge are the ones who can’t imagine they would die.
The older I get, the less I care about surviving a zombie apocalypse.
As a kid I was all “I’d find a great hideout and make a plan!”, but these days I think beyond the first two weeks, and how everything will have fallen apart real fucking quickly. It all just seems like a hassle, y’know?
If a zombie apocalypse happens I don’t plan on surviving it. If anything I assume I will be among the first wave of zombies. The people who got infected before anyone had any idea what the hell was going on
I’m still gonna stick around as long as I can. A Zombie apocalypse would be pretty easy. You only have to watch the walking dead for a season or two to see its only the stupid people who will have a really hard time.
And only the smart people would think they can survive it 😉
That whole series they find a place and when it gets overrun they never go back. They should have went back to the farm.
Lots of “Hero mentality” when you’re a conservative. That’s why they cosplay military so much.
Lee Kovarsky: “People confuse telling hard truths with just being a total f------ idiot”
I need to use that. For my whole life people have always stated obvious shit and hateful statements and insist that being hateful and insulting automatically means the truth.
They make it sound like he shouldn’t have said it out loud. This is the shit his loyalists love! He means to say it and they were meant to hear it.
He wasn’t “caught” doing shit.
The night of broken glass is literally their guide book.
Why would this be surprising to anyone…
I think Trump wanting to “make all crimes legal for a twelve hour period” should be enough to dump, disqualify, and imprison his @$$.
Not what he said
It was cops should be allowed to be as violent as they want one day a year to deter criminals
I think if he made all crimes legal, for 12 hours- and gave people plenty of warning, he’d be dead in the first.
I mean, it must be an exercise of immense self control to be on his security detail, and not constantly wonder about the good that could happen. If they just.
Also. Throw in all his cooks and food delivery people, the people that maintain his vehicles. The people that maintain the golf course… the mail people. The people that do the laundry. Change his diapers. The people that manage his medications.
There’s an awful lot of people that he relies on to survive. Any one of them could end it, and he shits on them near constantly.
Remove the threat of consequences? Oh yeah. It’d be a battle royally, and he’s the king to regicide.
Or simply kill him.
Unrelated to the content, how does a self respecting journalist start an article’s title with “Omg”?
Like I feel dirty even giving them a click when I have no obligation to society, it’s just depressing to see them presenting as a credible news source
how does a self respecting journalist start an article’s title with “Omg”?
Probably the same way we don’t start them with “VERILY!” or “FORSOOTH!”. Language evolves and makes old people mad. Tale as old as time.
Raw Story is a fake news website, always has been.
Omg word using person uses word that you understood to communicate idea.
Get over yourself, mate
Unrelated to the content, how does a self respecting journalist
The fact you lack respect for other living beings does not indicate that they necessarily lack respect for themselves.
It’s a quote, dumbass
Oh my god, is that what those funky-wunky little lines around Omg meant?
Before I just thought it was just a sensationalist garbage headline, I had no idea someone ACTUALLY said “Omg” in relation to the article, mind blown, thanks
Quote the quote!!!
