Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can’t remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!
Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you’re on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won’t bring up the info.
This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you’re interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I’ll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I’m going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.
The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.
https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/
This next one I’m going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the “Lhamana” and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.
Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a “middle” as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won’t go in detail here because I don’t feel qualified to summarize it, but it’s in the link down below.
The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don’t refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn’t an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.
As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There’s probably some cultural significance to this, but I’m not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women’s work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.
https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion
That’s all for now! To wrap thing up I would like to invite yall to our public matrix server! https://matrix.to/#/#tracha:chapo.chat
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Gender research findings go here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin_Delaware#Treatment_of_gender
More of linguistic interest, Pidgin Delaware, a simplified amalgam of local, indigenous languages used for trade with Europeans, used two linguistic genders. Unlike European languages, however, the genders aren’t masculine and feminine but rather animate and inanimate.
Unlike European languages, however, the genders aren’t masculine and feminine but rather animate and inanimate.
This is how proto-indoeuropean is thought to have developed! And then over time, the animate gender became masculine, and inanimate feminine (probably reflecting the patriarchal society)
sang St. Vincent to myself in the gym shower after leg day
had a lil’ moment getting dressed while achy and exhausted at the lyric “I’m so glad I came but I can’t wait to leave” on Dancing With A Ghost
I fucking love my trans comrades so much
Getting home from work and reading one piece in a miniskirt and heels just because
okay. with the encouragement of multiple people, i decided to say something:
pee pee
wait, fuck! no!
today in adventures in being out at work
guy comes up to me and while i’m pretty used to being called “sir” because of my barely trained voice, this guy called me “sir” before i fucking said a word to him , so I just took a mental deep breath and responded to him in my best femme voice I could muster. I think I could feel that it was at least good enough to put him on his toes because the rest of the interaction was kind of awkward and he never called me a man after
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Ah who needs girl clothes when you can just listen to shoegaze all day long
All clothes are girl clothes when you’re a girl and you’re the one wearing them
What about listening to shoegaze in girl clothes?
Who wants to see my tatas?
can i please say something
I have you marked down for saying something on January 18th, at 6pm martian time
My mom says if you have nothing pee pee to say you shouldn’t say it at all
please say at least three things
life is weird
Meds have been helping… But still have all the (lack of) executive capacity, and seriously feeling the avoidant side of myself, getting very anxious about bringing people further into my life. Ive been so social lately, i feel like i may be overdoing it, and im trying to deal with that without overcorrecting and cutting all my friends and new aquaintances out of my life for the next 3 months
Don’t burn yourself out, any true friends will understand if you need to take a step back and have some alone time
Thats the thing, i dont need to step back normally i just burn out and thats how i manage my social battery (great strat, i know ). Its more me getting in my head and panicking about myself than an actual need to step back, if that makes sense?
Yeah my social anxiety is still pretty bad but I’ve noticed that, around people I’m familiar and comfortable with, I don’t really get drained like that anymore. I actually like hanging out with people now which is weird because I haven’t felt like that since I was a kid
Yeah, i havent been this social in a long long time. Happy your social battery isnt getting drained so heavily anymore
That makes sense. I actually understand that on a spiritual level, I don’t really get exhausted socially anymore. I’m friendly, my default expression is a smile, and I actually engage in conversation with people.
Omg i know right!? Its wonderful, but now I need to change how i manage my social life
Transition has me socializing & mood stabilizers has me not getting socially exhausted, truly a new me
Yeah, I’m glad I met the girl I love after I transitioned. She deserves this version of me.
This makes my
incredibly meltyice cold heart melt in joy im so glad she gets this version of you
I think we should make a tracha-lite (tracha but less chaotic/probably with a spray bottle to keep users like me contained). There’s been at least a few people (4~ come to mind) I’ve seen and talked to who said normal tracha can be overwhelming or intimidating.
I know we talked about that a bit in the tracha mods chat, but figure that tossing the idea here would probably also help it not be drowned out by other chats (might make a post or idk later as well, idk)
I might join if theres a more chill tracha, id at least check it out and see if it works for my brain
Yeah, having more than one room for parallel conversations would be nice.
I would like to express interest. I keep trying to look at tracha but it really is so overwhelming. I would love a sort of tracha-lite if it was manageable
Overwhelming is an understatement. Unless I pay attention to it constantly, I couldn’t possibly hope to keep up with it. I actually had to disable notifications from element to my watch cause it was draining the battery.
Yeah, my battery was dropping by the minute.
I actually have free time again, what a concept! So, I’ve returned to creating character portraits. I want to compare two I don’t believe I’ve shown on here. The first uses the older software, and the second one the newer software. The second one also meets the 16-color requirement, while the first does not. There’s also a pixel on each that needs fixing. Other than that, which one do you all think looks better?
Also adding a bonus one, made with the newer software
Bonus round 2: Luna “Castro” redone
The more I look at these portraits, the more I like the one in the middle the best. I really liked the other two, it’s why they didn’t get scrapped, but the one in the middle is almost completely new, and I think I did a pretty good job.
I like the right one more, but i think it would look good with a more contrasty accent colour, perhaps a shade of blue or green? Maybe pastel-y since the colours are so strong in the portrait.
It would probably work nicely, but I would have to find a way to work it into the color limit. It’s going into a 16-bit game, so I can only have 16 colors. I might be able to get away with blending some shadows though, I’ll get back to you. Also going to try to make the contrast more uniform between portraits, I fixed the second one.
Ooh ok thats a constraint! Can i ask what youre color pallet is?
I like the right one better personally, also don’t know if I ever said, good luck on the game making
I definitely like the one on the right better myself, it is my second take after all. Thanks for the good luck, I’m going to need it. I took one look at the game software, and it’s going to be a lot of work and learning new things.
I spent years putting together my wardrobe. If I start hormones, are they still gonna fit??
Oh shit, this is bad! Will my new fleshy bits be contained??
You’ll have time. The changes aren’t instantaneous and take a good while. But, if all goes well, yes, you’ll have to replace it eventually.
Bad news, they might not fit because good news your body is gonna change shape
I had to toss most of my old boy clothes (way too tight in the chest and ass now). I don’t fit some of the clothes I got earlier in my transition as well :(
They weren’t lying, this progesterone really do be making me eepy.
Also my hair is like, ridiculously soft suddenly. Like almost overnight, even my girlfriend noticed it. I’m definitely not imagining things and I haven’t changed anything in my hair care. Idk where this came from but I’m very happy about it.