Things didn’t end well for the last guy…

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      Because people need to eat.

      Also, some air travel is essential.

      Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?

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        Lol the idea of a medical courier waiting in line at the TSA rummaging through their organ containers because they flagged it sus in the x-ray machine.

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        Are you trying to imply…that the medical couriers …are transporting …food?

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            Yeah but implying that medical couriers are selling their payloads on a cannibal black market is juicer than a fat mans liver.

            With some fava beans.

            And a nice chianti.

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        They are only doing it in the first place because they need to eat

        Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?

        The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered settled in an emergency meeting because they have places they want to go

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              Yes, but private airports, or airstrips, exist and probably have little to no TSA involvement. Some guy nearby lands his helicopter in his back yard.

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          You one comment ago:

          Doesn’t it make more sense to shutdown US airports?

          You this comment:

          The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered

          Which is it? Does it make sense to shut down U.S. airports or is that something that wouldn’t happen?

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            How are you confused on that

            If they were to announce airport shutdowns then the budget would be passed to prevent that

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              You didn’t say announce a shutdown. If you meant announce it and not actually do it, you sure weren’t clear about that since you said it would make sense to do it.

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    I get it, but having people feel bad for the TSA of all organizations is a tall order. Why not pick a less controversial gov agency effected like say the National Parks and Museums?

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      Probably because parks and museums usually just close whenever this happens, so they’re not working without pay. They’re just on an indefinite suspension

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        And yet I can feel for them more, If the TSA was gone tomorrow I could not care.

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          The way it setup it will not mean the removal of the stupid safety theater, it will mean the closing of the airport.

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            I know, and that makes me even less inclined to have sympathy for the TSA as a whole. I know I should feel bad for the people working at the TSA, but I can’t.

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    Theater of security isn’t helpful anyway. I say it’s even harmful, as it makes cars more attractive over public transport and get more shit in our lungs as result.

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    How bout they just dont show up? The TSA is a fraudulent agency anyway. Pre-9/11 security worked just fine.

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      And if someone is going to hijack a plane to pilot it into a building, i doubt their mission would depend on a large tube of toothpaste and a nail clipper

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        “Heh heh heh, finally, I can sneak enough explosive toothpaste into the plane!”

        That’s the terrorists right now, how do you feel now, huh? It’s not a joke. TSA is extremely serious. 😤

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    Did we not abolish the TSA yet? Funny how we’re always losing ground on everything.

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    Musk and Trump showed me, that I don’t have to think about being a good enough person… Obviously I easily am (it’s enough not to kill/rape/extort,… who would have thought it’s so easy?)

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      I can’t imagine coming in to work if I’m not being paid on time. Indeed, if there’s even a whiff of maybe I won’t get paid, I’m not coming in unless I’m paid in advance.

      Every government worker that is told they’re not getting paid should do that. Money in my account now, before I come in to work.

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        Love this attitude. The harsh reality is, not everyone is a kid working at maccas and they have families to feed and bills to pay.

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          Not much difference toward feeding family or paying bills if you’re not getting paid. Better to take the time off and find a new job.

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            True, but isn’t this just late payment? It’s still absolutely abhorrent and I’d be fucking furious, I’m just saying a lot of people aren’t in a position to just leave. Getting paid a week late is better than losing your pay for 2-4 weeks while you look for another job.

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              There is no guarantee that they will get paid. For that to happen, congress will have to pass a spending bill that not only authorized future spending but also explicitly gives back pay for the time they were working without paying after the shutdown.

              So far this has always happened, but I do remember some noises about not doing it around the last shutdown.

              So especially after those comments last time, there is no certainty that if you come in to work for the government during a shutdown you will be paid.

              There’s a reason the country lost credit rating, and it’s because people are slightly less confident that it will actually pay its debts, including simple payroll.

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        The more I think about it, the more I can see this is a really good example of Hanlon’s razor.

        If they were evil, they would not tell you they’re not paying you. They simply wouldn’t pay you. They’re actually stupid because they told people they expect them to work without getting paid.

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      Ok, but they can’t: for TSA not working is their job description. They work by not working.

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      He’s legally a US citizen by way of his mother.

      Nevermind how much “god damn those evil foreigners are at it again” rhetoric makes me gag. Peter Thiel and Marc Andressen are fully American and they suck just as hard. If anything, the problem isn’t Elon, its Stanford University and the endless line of factory produced insane far-right techbro degenerates that it rolls out which gave us our modern hellscape.

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    Remember when the goverment was first shut down in a long time, if ever before, when Republicans thought it would be a good ratfucker move to harm Obama’s presidency, and it blew up in their faces, and our Country went from a AAAA rated borrower to a AAA borrower due to government disfunction? We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding. It pisses me off so much. Imagine getting paid a significant amount of tax payer money, a life long sipend, and better health care than most the county, and not even doing your job and letting the goverment shut down. At some point here the lawlessness is going to convince enough people that it seriously doesn’t matter anymore.

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      We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding

      What we do in Australia is of the government can’t pass a budget we dissolve the government and go for elections.
      Clearly the MP are not doing their jobs so make them run for their jobs again.

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        That works in a parliamentary system, because the state and the government are two different things. In the U.S. system, they are functionally the same thing. We can’t dissolve the government, or we’d have to rebuild the entire state apparatus from the ground up.

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      Why doesn’t the “no new wars!” gang cut military spending by 65-80%? Defense readiness doesn’t cost $800B/ year.

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      Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding.

      This is exactly what happened a few days ago in France. While it’s not perfect, it’s still a whole lot better than a shutdown.

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    And they ripped out funding for pediatric cancer research. $250 million… or around 0.05% of president Musk’s net worth. Why do repubs hate kids with cancer?

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      They want to strip away everything that reduces infant mortality, so that people start having more kids again since so many of them will die young.

      Then later they give it back, and since they already took away the right to abortion… Boom, population explosion and a bunch of poor kids are born to later be exploited in factories and wars.

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          If you don’t want to have an abortion, no one’s ever been forcing you.

          Why you think it’s appropriate to force others is weird.

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              Nah, you don’t really believe that.

              You already know that in an abortion, no one is typically killing the fetus (which btw is less of a human than a chicken egg is human), they’re just removing it from the body it’s parasiting off of. Not the mother’s fault it can’t survive, and I’m pretty sure you’re for curing cancer or tape worm which also contain more human dna than a fetus does.

              Besides, in many cases the fetus is already dead or terminal anyway.

              And even if this was codified under law as murder, it wouldn’t be the mother doing it, but a licensed professional, much like police, soldiers or wardens.

              Thats’s a lot of mental gymnastics to insert yourself into someone’s health care and sex life. That’s kind of weird…

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                Republicans have spread this myth that women use abortion like birth control. Just like the myth of the black welfare Queen, spitting out kids just to draw a check. It’s all bullshit and they know it, they just hate poor people.

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                tape worm which also contain more human dna than a fetus does.

                Not that im disagreeing with your overall argument, but a fetus has 100% human dna… otherwise it wouldnt develop into a human lol

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                  A fetus does indeed have 100% human DNA, but a tape worm has about 70% human DNA.

                  An 8 week fetus is about 20 g, an 8 week tape worm can become up to 30 ft, weighing several pounds. 70 % of a pound is more than 20 g.

                  And with the new slave mother laws, the fetus isn’t more than a handful of grams at the cut off date, making it all the more poignant.

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              Okay, I don’t agree with the emotional concept that a fetus is a person innately, but I can at least understand where that type of thinking comes from. Claiming it’s a fully-developed human is just demonstrably wrong. You’re entitled to your opinion, but feelings aren’t facts. I sincerely hope this is a sad attempt at trolling.

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                  Claims science, states no actual science, strawmans up an example that isn’t related to the original in any way. claims gaslighting with no actual reference to gaslighting behavior.

                  No slurs or personal attacks, but i feel like you’re going for the subtle approach so you probably don’t need those right now.

                  Hmm, so this is up there, i feel like it’s missing something though, can’t quite place what, but i’ll keep an eye on the replies in case i spot it.

                  Anyway, 8/10 shitpost, good job, no notes.


                  While i have you, it sounds like you are a person familiar with how science works and will give me an actual answer rather than deflect.

                  What is the scientific definition of “parasite”?

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                  What is your solution for fetal anomalies that will inevitably lead to stillbirth or death in the first few hours of life? What is your solution for pregnancy abnormalities that put the life of the mother at serious risk? What is your solution for women who are desperately trying to escape monstrously abusive relationships that got pregnant from marital rape or coercion?

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                  Do you believe people who are unresponsive and comatose for a long period should be kept alive despite the families wishes?

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              A fetus is objectively not fully formed. What do you think its doing in the womb for all those months, just hanging out? When abortions happen its just a bundle of cells that cant think, breathe, or live on its own.

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                  Cancer

                  Cancer is a bunch of cells. By your logic it is immoral to treat cancer. Cancer has human DNA. Cancer can also live independent of the human that spawned it.

                  We should stop killing cancer too.

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                  A coma involves brain activity in a highly developed nervous system, often with a high chance of recovery.

                  A fetus has a tiny, undeveloped nervous system, with no higher brain functions.

                  These are not at all equivalent. One is a person, and the other is not.

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              Then how come they can’t survive without leeching off a host? 80% of pregnancies spontaneously end in miscarriage. That doesn’t sound viable or fully developed to me. If it could survive outside the womb, you’d have a point. But it can’t, so you don’t.

              You know who was actually fully-developed? All the women who have died due to pregnancy complications thanks to draconic laws that take away their rights over their own bodies. I’ll hold you responsible for murdering them.

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                You clearly don’t know biology do you & are you capable of sustaining yourself I you were left in a jungle ? BTW, it’s around 13.5 percent but regardless it’s not 80% (that’s a lie)

                • American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. (2020)
                • National Center for Health Statistics. (1999). Trends in Pregnancies and Pregnancy Rates.
                • JAMA Network. (2020)

                I hold you responsible for the billions of deaths of unborn children, because of your stupidity & selfishness & inhumanity

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                  BTW, it’s around 13.5 percent but regardless it’s not 80% (that’s a lie)

                  Sure, if you only measure after 6 weeks.

                  For women of reproductive age, losses between implantation and clinical recognition are approximately 10–25%. Loss from implantation to birth is approximately one third [39, 46, 48, 49].

                  A recent re-analysis [39] of data from three studies [46, 48, 49] concluded that, in normal healthy women, 10–40% is a plausible range for pre-implantation embryo loss and overall pregnancy loss from fertilisation to birth is approximately 40–60%.

                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5443340/

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                  You clearly don’t know biology do you

                  Says the person claiming a fetus is a fully developed human.

                  are you capable of sustaining yourself I you were left in a jungle ?

                  Millions of people live in the jungles of the world. How many fetuses live outside wombs? Oh right, none. Because there’s a difference between having the skills to survive in the jungle, and being a fully developed human capable of independent biological survival.

                  Have you ensured that every single one of your gametes resulted in a child? Then you’re a genocidal hypocrite.

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              No. A fully developed human would be post-pubescent. Until then you are either a fetus incapable of living outside your mother’s body, or a baby capable of independent life with some sort of care.

              Fetuses are NOT babies. Stop being obtuse.

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          I assume you’ve adopted multiple unwanted children in the foster system including severely disabled ones, right?

          Since you think that “unborn children” shouldn’t be “killed,” you’ve got to be a major part of the solution.

          Tell me about your severely disabled kids you adopted from the foster system.

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              Oh fuck right off with that bullshit. Abortions are a medical procedure. Women have died because they can’t get them. Or should we just let fetuses that die in utero rot inside the womb and kill the poor woman who lost her baby through no fault of her own?

              That’s just one example off the top of my head.

              Nobody wants to or is killing children. That’s some hyperbolic bullshit.

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                  Fair, but I would suggest that married couples who want more than one child should be allowed to choose to have as much sex as they want until they’re ready to have that next child. Of course, anti-abortion crusaders never think about the fact that it isn’t just those dirty sluts getting abortions. Married people have sex too.

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      Whoa whoa whoa you can’t go around funding kids healthcare. Then they are gonna become adult voters who expect more free healthcare.

      You want kids who get to adulthood on the skin of their teeth, or kids who don’t get to adulthood at all. There’s no in-between.