I’ll start: Greggs is massively overrated. I genuinely don’t understand how people hype it.

Edit: this is a casual community so it would be great if we could avoid politics lest it descend into chaos!

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      Totally agree, although it’s not a problem that’s unique the to the UK, it’s also a big issue in places like Italy and Spain. I don’t know what is is about football that brings out the dickheads, you just don’t see it with other sports.

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        Isn’t it a lot to do with how easy it is to start playing? All you need is something ball shaped and a wall or a bit of grass .You don’t need to terraform a whole area like golf, for example.

        So it’s got no barrier to entry which means people of a lower socioeconomic disposition can play it and they are often disproportionately stressed and angry

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          Possibly, but I think it’s just the simplicity of the game, it’s extremely easy to understand and there’s “local” teams where you’re more likely to feel an attachment to.

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          But you don’t see this with tag, or even bulldog, both of these have an even lower barrier to entry.

          I would also hazard a suggestion that other simple sports, such as rugby, don’t have as violent following from supporters.

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      I think football in general is just boring. There’s huge periods of time when nothing seems to be happening. Every 5 minutes they seem to stop play to have an argument with the referee or to roll on the ground in apparent agony because they got grazed knee. I really can’t be bothered with it.

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    I’m going to just go ahead and run into oncoming traffic…

    Northern Ireland should be given back to Ireland.

    England, Scotland, and Wales should become independent countries with an open border & trade policy between them and the newly reunified Ireland.

    And any of those countries should be free to choose to rejoin the EU if they have not already done so.

    :)

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      England, Scotland, and Wales should become independent countries

      Only if London fucks off and becomes a city-state.

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      Being the casual community I’d hope that people would stay clear of politics to keep it light hearted, but looking at the community rules it doesn’t prohibit politics.

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        My post about my sweaty feet got deleted for being NSFW so I think as long as you avoid talk of smelly feet you’re all good.

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          Well there’s no guarantee the mods are sane

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            Well I have to assume people who don’t like they’re own feet are clearly batshit crazy and walking round on stumps. Bunch of foot-hating weirdos.

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        You can’t steer clear of politics. Everything is political. Whoever told you otherwise was trying to manipulate you with lies.

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          You can easily steer clear of politics, unless you’re an absolute bore who constantly wants to twist any conversation into a political one. Nobody told me this, it’s just obvious.

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      Northern Ireland should be given back to Ireland.

      It really pains me, as someone from Northern Ireland. How people just assume that it’s that simple. Both that NI was “stolen” from Ireland and that it’ll be a quick and simple job to bring them together.

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      Federate the UK! Though I think England is too big and needs to be broken into chunks roughly even with Wales, Scotland and Ireland. Massively decentralize.

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    Tea bags without a little string on it is weird.

    Then again, I’m european and have only ever visited Edinburgh so I don’t think my opinion counts, Anglophilic as I may be.

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      For a long steeping tea, I can understand the string.
      For one you’re going to be whipping out after a few minutes, I like the tagless ones.
      It means I can just throw them in, instead of fiddling wrapping the string around.

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          I have too much fear of it sliding in. I wrap it around the handle (a lot of them have a little slit in the paper so it clips to itself).

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          Don’t you need to do this anyway even if it has a string, as you’ll need to squeeze the bag at the top of the mug to prevent unwanted drips. Chances are you’re making a cup of tea in a kitchen and a teaspoon will be within arms reach.

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            Going to go out on a limb and say continental Europeans tend to drink tea without milk so don’t need to use a spoon, that makes having string more important

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            nah just lift it out, give it a shake and let it tap the sides a bit before a swift transfer to the dustbin.

            edit: the little packaging the teabags might come in can be used for transfer as well.

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    The trains aren’t bad. They’re not great, but they’re not as utterly terrible as some people make out. I commute to Manchester three times a week typically and it takes ~30 mins on the train, I always get a seat and I’ve never been delayed more than 15 mins. At rush hour it would take an hour to drive and even an on-the-day return is cheaper than parking.

    Edit to add: I go to London a couple of times a month. Not had a significant issue in years.

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      I commute to Manchester three times a week

      Yeah because you’re going to a major city. But if you’re not going to a major city or you’re going by a link then you start having problems.

      If my train is 15 minutes late and I’m getting a connection in Manchester then it’s a major issue, if you’re getting off in Manchester it’s a minor inconvenience.

      It’s sod’s law that if your train is delayed then the connecting train will depart exactly on time. The other classic inevitable is that the size of the train is inversely proportionate to the expected passenger count.

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        Could also just be that they’re trying to commute five days a week, and it’s just three days a week the train isn’t cancelled. My brother commutes to Manchester, and while the train there works, the train home is cancelled pretty often, and he needs to take a later one.

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          I don’t know about Manchester I don’t think I’ve ever even been in Manchester train station but Leeds is terrible for this.

          I used to work on the outskirts of Leeds but on the opposite side from where I lived, so I’d have to get a train into Leeds and then a connecting train out of Leeds.

          The train into Leeds was usually fine (in the sense that it was running, but it was often delayed) but the one out of Leeds was very frequently delayed or straight up canceled.

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      I keep trying trains, here are some of my experiences. Caveat, I actually like/enjoy driving myself, but I want trains to be good for everyone including me.

      Living in Wiltshire, within walking distance of a train station. Have friends in Kent, again walking distance of a train station. I was visiting those friends a few times a year, maybe even monthly at the time. I didn’t have my own vehicle. Jumping on a train with a book, seemed like the good option. The cost was incredible, easily 4x the cost of fuel if I had a car/motorbike (as I later did). The trains were generally on-time, into London. Once I bought a vehicle (motorbike at the time) that became my default. The one time I wanted to leave the motorbike at home due to bad weather, the line was flooded between reading and Paddington and I had to take the bike in the rain anyway. It cost me less to pay the fuel, insurance and outright buy the motorbike in a year than I spent on the train.

      Living in South Wales, travelling to leeds regularly (several times a month). Avoiding the road miles/fuel/carbon, trying to take the train. The journey is long, involved several changeovers. The worst changeover was at Cardiff, I had a 55 minute wait at the end of a 5+ hour journey before a final 20 minute train home. I did get a lot of reading done. I also got a lot of drinking done, that much time sat on a train and I’d have a few cans. Ironically google maps often told me to get off at a station before home, and walk the hour and twenty minutes from Cwmbran home, as it was quicker that taking the layover in Cardiff. Eventually started driving again.

      South wales valleys, into cardiff. Rush hour traffic is horrendous. The drive to work at the weekend was around twenty minutes, during rush hour you’d add an hour to that at least. Started taking the train. Was regularly late to work as the rush hour trains would be at capacity and I wouldn’t be able to get on, or they weren’t running. I had a 35 minute wait at the station each evening after work, if I worked late I’d often get stuck waiting on the hourly train home. The train, while “in theory” quicker, was even slower than driving; it was less reliable and it worked out more expensive than the fuel.

      The train should be a solid win. But time after time I’ve ended up buying a vehicle and going back to driving.

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      I think it’s very regional. I work in various places around Yorkshire, so I’m not always on the same route, but it’s generally 10-20 trains a week (mixed with other weeks where I can walk or cycle from home). Of a 20 train week, I’d expect 1-2 delays or cancellations every day. Unless we’re starting or finishing early/late, I’d expect a seat once, in one direction only.

      These are mostly 2 carriage Sprinters with hundreds of people trying to get on them. Sometimes I work in other places, and you’ve got these enormous 10 carriage long things that run North/South, but only 50 people trying to get on, so you always get a seat on them.

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      I commute to Manchester

      That’s the only reason you’re coping. Manchester is the greatest city in the World so it offsets the utter abortion that is train travel. Where are you coming from? North, East, South West? If it’s some shitole town like New Mills I can imagine the train journey is a euphoric experience.

      Edit to add: I go to London a couple of times a month. Not had a significant issue in years.

      On second thoughts you may have brain damage. It’s not normal to think train travel and London are acceptable to life. You should speak to your doctor and ask about traumatic brain injury or tumours. Could explain things.

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      It’s good until you’re about halfway through and the grease catches up with you.

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      That’s a good one! I do like a chippy as long as the batter is nice and crispy. Can’t stand vinegar though, absolutely vile stuff!

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        I’m American and I couldn’t imagine getting fish and chips without malt vinegar. They aren’t just serving it with white vinegar over there, are they?

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          It’s with malt vinegar and a lot of people like it, it’s just not for me!

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        It’s the chips for me. Anaemic soggy rubbish is awful, our local changed hands a few years back and they started to dry the chips until they were crispy.

        It was amazing. The chips even managed to stay warm and not too sweaty after getting them home because they started to box them rather than wrapping in paper.

        However they received so many complaints they reverted back to paper, and the chips are a hot lump of soggy crap. There are several chippies in town who serve that crap, it was a nice period when we had one that made good food.

        I don’t bother with fish and chips anymore.

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      I prefer fries to thick cut chips if I’m given a choice but battered fish is golden crispy magic.

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    Baked beans are grim.

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        Rip off the lid and chug them straight from the can. The tomato slurry hides the blood.

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      You have to cook them on the hob for about 1/2 hour until the sauce is a nice thick gloop with a crust on top.

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      Any shop selling a “Cornish pastry” must be awful. The pasty shops that are actually in Cornwall are definitely better!

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    Brits are exceptionally bad at driving. It’s unbelievable the dumb shit they do on the roads. All it takes is get across the channel to see what traffic could be.

    Funilly enough - it takes about 5 miles, when coming back from EU, for the rules to be thrown out the window. Doing 20 below on a fast lane, never overtaking, not fitting into a single lane, no indicators, no anticipation, no fucks given. :(

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      Can’t say I agree with this. I’ve driven in France, Belgium, Netherlands & Germany and didn’t really notice any difference in standards across anywhere, including the UK. The only weirdness I saw was in France where I saw drivers purposely crashing their car into other parked cars to make some space.

      Other than the not using indicators thing, I haven’t seen anything like you describe. Doing below 20 in the fast lane is a death sentence, unless you’re in traffic obviously.

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        Belgians stick to the right like glue, Dutch are similar. Germans are, well, Germans. Very polite, very precise.

        Doing below 20 in the fast lane is a death sentenc

        Yes, it is. Doesn’t stop some people. They simply rely on others to do safe driving.

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      Have you seen the way the french drive?

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    I’ll start: Greggs is massively overrated. I genuinely don’t understand how people hype it.

    I hadn’t read your comment before answering and now I have I wish death and plague upon your bones. You’re a proper wrongun’. People like you should have new medicines tested on them. You should also be force-fed Greggs until you beg for death or capitulate and accept it as your Lord and Saviour.

    Fucking anti-Greggs monsters are gonna take over the country if we don’t sort them out soon.

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      You’ve obviously never had a Greenhalghs cheese & jalapeno pasty, or been to pound bakery! They have a much better selection of pasties for a lot less.

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    Milk doesn’t belong in tea.

    Also what you call “pie” and “pudding” is a culinary crime.

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      You’ve clearly never had a good steak and ale pie or creamy chicken, leak and ham pie!

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      Listen you vile heretic, what do you think a pie is then?

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        Talking about IQ is a very American thing to do, you know

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          You have to speak the language of the savage for them to understand. You know how orangutans can be taught sign language but can’t understand words? Same with Septics. You have to speak in simple sentences and drop words like eagle, gun and IQ for them to grasp what you’re saying. Bit like how Trump speaks.

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    ETA: I’m proud to have the only genuinely controversial opinion in this whole thread. You’re a bunch of wet-knickered, limp-lidded, pussy-willows.

    As usual people are fucking idiots so you may need to sort by controversial…

    • Autism is over-diagnosed - being a quirky introvert is a LONG fucking way away from Rainman style shut ins who literally can’t function without adult carers.
    • ADHD is overdiagnosed - it’s just middle class mummies being upset their son isn’t a 7A* genius and insisting the doctor prescribe performance enhancing drugs. As a former stimulant addict I know I would be a grade-A genius if I was prescribed fucking meth daily. That doesn’t mean you have ADHD. It means you’re taking drugs. The whole ‘oh my god I suddenly felt “normal” after taking my meds’ is precisely how I and other stim addicts feel taking meth/stims. It turns you into Superman, that’s what it does. EVERYBODY reacts like that when taking ADHD drugs.
    • Femboys are fucking annoying - I don’t find it cute or endearing to infantalize men. That includes the stupid craze of “programming socks” and Linux fem boys. I like men to be men (I’m gay).
    • Downvotes on Lemmy/Reddit are only to be used for spam - Moderation was done by the users by downvoting. This was the rule back in Reddits early days. It’s even still written in Reddiquette that downvotes are not for disagreement. If you disagree you’re encouraged to comment why. This meant early Reddit had a lot of great debates and discussion. Moderation was almost non-existant. After the influx of Digg and users who didn’t know WTF they were doing that was lost and moderators got heavy handed. Unfortunately Lemmy has got Reddit mods so it’s happening here too.
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        OK but it answers the question posted. The OP didn’t ask for agreeable opinions. They asked for controversial so I gave mine. Would you like to try and debunk any of my opinions?

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          Sure!

          Autism and ADHD are both spectrums of symptoms, but you apparently think that ‘real’ diagnosis are those with the most extreme symptoms.

          Autism has nothing to do with being a quirky introvert in real life. The common traits such as taking things literally, strong reactions to stimuli, and others I’m forgetting all have a range from mild to completely debilitating and the diagnosis is based on how it impacts the person’s day to day life. I work with a couple people who have milder symptoms and other than just being easier to talk to than most people because they say what they mean, it is just something that them knowing helps them understand how to interact with others to reduce conflict. It also helps them avoid situations that overwhelm them since increased sensitivity to stimuli is a huge part of it. Maybe you shouldn’t take tiktok/movies/other entertainment as representation of real world medical diagnosis.

          I have ADHD, diagnosed in my 30s, and while I also think middle class white boys might be over diagnosed that is more of a middle class pressure on doctors than a general trend of over diagnosing. I spent two years trying behavior changes, but since they were not successful I tried meds and it took three before finding one that really does feel like it magically fixed things. I was even able to be relatively successful in life before, but with medication things are so much easier because while it is working the odds of me losing focus is greatly reduced and getting stuck being indecisive over minor things is greatly reduced. It doesn’t turn me into Superman, it turns me into Clark Kent. Comparing ADHD medication to calm down with addiction to stimulants making you feel like Superman is the dumbest shit I’ve read this month.

          Both diagnosis are also things everyone does dialed up to a degree that is disruptive. That does mean that someone who wants their kid to be diagnosed can exaggerate things to increase the odds of a diagnosis, but that doesn’t mean your general statements that the two conditions are fictional is accurate. Both are dismissive and frankly offensive. Again, I disagree with the reasons behind your opinions because of how terrible the ‘reasons’ are, not that you have those opinions.

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            the odds of me losing focus is greatly reduced and getting stuck being indecisive over minor things is greatly reduced. It doesn’t turn me into Superman, it turns me into Clark Kent. Comparing ADHD medication to calm down with addiction to stimulants making you feel like Superman is the dumbest shit I’ve read this month.

            It was hyperbole but my point stands. I feel “normal” on meth. In your words yes I feel like Clarke Kent. As in you suddenly feel how you think you’re always meant to feel.

            My point is the effects ADHD people describe when ‘finding a med that works’ are exactly the same as those of a normal person doing stims. There’s literally no difference except heart rate.

            I get the impression you’ve no idea what meth is like - let me explain: It’s exactly like when you take ADHD meds. That alive/awake/suddenly I’m here. That’s it. OK It’s obviously got major side effects when taken to excess (e.g. 4 day wanking binges or obsessive sorting/cleaning). But I’d argue those are signs of OVERDOSE not meths inherent effects. Which doctors agree with because guess what!? Methamphetamine is prescribed to treat ADHD!!! Along with methylphenidate and guess what I used to abuse? Ethylphenidate - almost exactly the same effects.

            So either I’ve been self-medicating away an undiagnosed ADHD disorder or ADHD isn’t a thing and people are simply taking performance enhancing legal drugs and explaining it away as medicine. Cos I’m tlelign you as an addict they are designed to make you feel fucking fantastic. It’s literally in the medical literature. It’s not a fucking surprise you feel great on ADHD meds - EVERYONE would and does!

            OK look at it form a different angle: Lots of people are terrible at socialising. A new diagnosis of “Asocialphobic Personality Disorder”. Doctors have discovered an excellent new treatment for it called Ethylene Hydrate which you take 44ml of every 2hrs. It cures the new disorder Asocialphobic Personality Disorder!!! WHAT HO!!! Miracle - we’ve fixed the worlds problems.

            Except Asocialphobic Personality Disorder doesn’t exist and Ethylene Hydrate is just another name for alcohol.

            Alcohol makes you more sociable. But sprucing it up in scientific language sure makes it sound like a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

            I don’t have a problem with ADHD sufferers or people taking meds. I do have a problem with the hypocracy. People used to medicate on alcohol for anxiety. Same with opium for pain, cocaine for motivation and many more. Native tribes used to chew coca leaves to travel long distances. Opium was used for operations.

            Kratom was used heavily by SE Asians to manage long work days…remember this one!

            When the world is screaming at you: PERFORM, CONSUME, PERFORM, WORK, CONSUME, PERFORM, CONSUME, WORK, WORK, WORK.

            You’re being left behind, life feels kinda shit - cos life IS shit!! So what do you do?

            You ask: What could be wrong with me? How do I fix myself?

            Doctors invent a whole new diagnosis and start prescribing uppers. What do they do? They make you PERFORM and WORK and CONSUME! Suddenly you fit into the life around you. It’s not you who was broken - the WORLD is broken. You felt shit precisely because life is SHIT! Have you heard that things like depression, ADHD, Autism and other mental health issues are more common in the developed world than in the developing?

            Ever wonder why?

            It’s not because the doctors are shit. It’s because they don’t need diagnoses to explain their situation.

            Drugging yourself with ADHD meds and antidepressants has become the new religion. In the past we could blame shit on god. We could find comfort in religion. When we see problems now we turn to doctors and science.

            Nothing changed - life is shit. It’s miserable and painful. ADHD meds didn’t fix you. They mask the reality of life.

            There’s no difference between your med use and my meth use except dosage and legality.

            I’ve written too much on ADHD to be bothered with Autism so I may/not answer that later. This will do for now.

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              It was hyperbole but my point stands. I feel “normal” on meth. In your words yes I feel like Clarke Kent. As in you suddenly feel how you think you’re always meant to feel.

              Did you always feel that way when you used meth, or just after you were addicted?

              If it is the former you might have ADHD or some other condition like depression where stimulation helps you.

              I tried cocaine a couple of times in my 20s and it calmed me down, but everyone else was hyped up and annoyed me so I stopped using it. Tried meth once and it was also calming, so I figured it didn’t work on me and never tried it again. When I was finally talked into seeing a doctor about concentration issues a decade later this was very helpful for the doctor as it led to me getting a full test and eventually the attempted behavior modification and then medical treatments.

              My point is the effects ADHD people describe when ‘finding a med that works’ are exactly the same as those of a normal person doing stims. There’s literally no difference except heart rate.

              It is the exact fucking opposite. The right stimulants calm down people with ADHD. They stimulate regular people.

              Honestly it sounds like you have had some really weird experiences with terrible doctors and other people in general. But everything you are saying is like the bizzaro opposite of how these things work.

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                OK I’m gonna speak to my GP at some point cos this isn’t the first time I’ve contemplated having undiagnosed ADHD.

                Funnily enough I did an online autism test the other day and it said I was “Highly Likely” autistic. But then it says further down the page they charge ~£2k for diagnosis from a private clinic that obviously wants to push for more profit. Who do I trust? It isn’t helped by the fact most ADHD, autism and cannabis diagnoses/prescriptions are private so there’s a profit motive to them all. Poor people don’t qualify. On Universal Credit and have ADHD? You’re fucked cos the meds cost £00s per month or a 3yr waiting list if you’re lucky.

                Added to the fact diagnoses is just confirmation bias. I can look at every disorder in the DSM from BPD to bloody schizophrenia and I fit every single one. It’s about picking the right memories. Am I asocial? Yes! But isn’t everyone? Am I miserable? Yes, of course! Do I procrastinate? Yes! Am I selfish? Yes, sometimes! Do I shit twice a day? Yes! Do I have problems concentrating? YES!

                But wait…is that cos I’ve been lay down on the sofa all day browsing Lemmy? Come to think of it does that explain everything? Is browsing Lemmy 12hrs per day the cause or a symptom of something?

                I see people talk about ADHD symptoms online all the time and I go - “yeah I get that”. It’s become so common that “neurodivergant” sounds neurotypical! Do you remember how “OCD” got overused? People would say “I’m so OCD cos I had to bin the toast I dropped butter side up”. Erm, no it’s dirty and it’s obvious. That’s kinda how it feels when I see people complain about ADHD symptoms - “no you’re not ADHD - that’s just normal”.

                In fact lets try it:

                • Short attention span, especially for non-preferred tasks - yes absolutely.
                • Hyperactivity, which may be physical, verbal, and/or emotional - When I was a kid my mum and aunties called me "hyperactive!. As an adult I get very hyper around people I know to the point of being annoying. I’ve been accused of having ‘child like energy’.
                • Impulsivity, which may manifest as recklessness - drug abuse and overspending into £20k debt so yes.
                • Fidgeting or restlessness - I climb around/over chairs. I don’t just sit.
                • Disorganization and difficulty prioritizing tasks - my flat is a fucking bomb site and after 3yrs I’ve still not unpacked.
                • Poor time management and time blindness - I’m late to anything/everything or extremely early to compensate.
                • Frequent forgetfulness - I just showered and after putting on an item of clothing I forgot what I was doing and waked into the lounge before remembering and walking back. So yes, very.
                • Daydreaming and the appearance of not listening - all the time. I’m normally in my own world more than the real world.

                So do I have ADHD? AFAIK everyone has those at some point. Fuck knows I assumed this was all normal and I was just shit at life…? My head’s at war with itself. On one hand I don’t want more drugs because I was an addict and antidepressants don’t work. On the other I keep seeing reasons why I should ask for a diagnosis because it seems blindingly obvious.

                I also did coke a few times as a student and once in my late 20s with the same result - calm mind but with palpitations. Someone told me it was probably “shit coke” but it had great reviews from everyone else. I also took modafinil for a few months and it helped my motivation - it’s thought to act in a similar way to ADHD meds and is being studied as an ADHD med.

                I don’t know. It’s annoying to think the 40yrs of my life being a complete cluster fuck could be explained by a diagnosis and some pills. Do you see where I’m coming from?

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                  Speak to your GP, tell them how you react to things and that you want to know if there is someone you can be referred to that addressed those kinds of things. Specifically things like ‘I respond differently than others to [drug] and also these behaviors that are affecting [part of your life] and want to know what I can do to find out if this is something that can be addressed’. Don’t say that you think you have ADHD or Autism, just focus on what you know and that you want to address it.

                  A lot of symptoms/behaviors overlap between diagnosis and have different treatments. For example, both Autism and ADHD frequently (but not always) have auditory processing issues where it can be hard to understand things someone said, not because of difficulty hearing, but how the brain is processing what is heard. A professional will be able to help sort out whether something is confirmation bias or an actual diagnosis.

                  The most important part of a disorder like ADHD is that it reaches the level of a disorder even though most people have the same symptoms from time to time! Like how everyone gets sad from time to time, but depression has similar symptoms but is completely different than just being sad.

                  Personally I think you have a lot of things that would be very good to speak about with a medical professional. They will be the one who can actually evaluate you and they will ask a lot of clarifying questions. For my diagnosis I also took a multiple choice thing that was a couple hundred questions in addition to multiple appointments before there was a diagnosis.

                  Funnily enough I did an online autism test the other day and it said I was “Highly Likely” autistic. But then it says further down the page they charge ~£2k for diagnosis from a private clinic that obviously wants to push for more profit. Who do I trust?

                  That is a scam and you should only trust licensed medical doctors who did not pursue your business.

                  I think you have been fed a ton of misinformation and really hope you speak to your GP and find out if this is something you should pursue. I won’t speculate whether you have ADHD because I am not a medical professional, but that is the type of person that will be able to help. I look back and wish that I had been diagnosed earlier, but all of the experiences that led to medication reinforce the fact that it actually does help me and that it isn’t just some placebo. Hell, friends I have had for decades can tell when I forget to take them!

                  The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is right now.

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                  But wait…is that cos I’ve been lay down on the sofa all day browsing Lemmy? Come to think of it does that explain everything? Is browsing Lemmy 12hrs per day the cause or a symptom of something?

                  Funny enough, it could be a symptom of ADHD, depression, or some kind of compulsion depending on why you do it. For ADHD it could be the stimulation or avoidance of something else. For depression it could be seeking some kind of connection.

                  But only a medical professional would know enough to narrow down the possibilities to reach a diagnosis. And you might even get the wrong one first! I was diagnosed with something else before ADHD, and it was mostly the horrible reaction to drugs for the first that excluded it and led to the one that worked. It is slow and honestly I hope you find something that helps you.

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      It’s even still written in Reddiquette that downvotes are not for disagreement

      Yeah but I’m not going to update a list of really bad takes.

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        Then don’t vote. My rough rule is:

        • Interesting and agree - upvote
        • Interesting but disagree - upvote
        • Not interesting and disagree - ignore or comment WHY I disagree
        • Insane offensive nonsense - ignore or comment WHY I find it offensive
        • Blatant link spam - downvote

        Makes for a more engaging platform and stops a place turning into an echo chamber.

        P.S. I upvoted you because I enjoy having my views challenged though I disagree with you for the above reason. I don’t want echo chambers.

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          I agree up until insane offensive nonsense, which I think needs to be downvoted into oblivion. Much like your “proudly controversial opinions” about modern medicine.

          It’s fair enough to have the thought that things might be overdiagnosed, but we are really only just learning about things like autism and it is a wide spectrum. Minimising people’s suffering can be more harmful than you think.